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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post

    Just like if BLU wasn't locked to level 50 then The Ram's Voice and The Dragon's Voice are easily attained from the Chimera regular mobs in Azys Lla... (In addition to Carnivale stage 25, which is where I learned them)
    Mob level has nothing to do with learning skills. You can learn any spell at level 1. You wouldn't have learned Tail Screw from the 61 mobs if that was the case - since a 70 class could carry you.

    Chimeras in Azys Lla do not cast the spell, otherwise people would have gone there. You can also learn it from the Thanalan Fate GoGomera or Relic Reborn Chimera.

    Now being 50 DOES lock you out of content where you can learn the spell in dungeons. IE you can't go to 51 level content to learn spells in dungeons. This also includes PoTD (Palace of the Dead) since it's technically 60 content (max level you can go. and Blue Mage is capped at 50)
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Mob level has nothing to do with learning skills. You can learn any spell at level 1.
    Yes, but it directly impacts your ability to get the skills SOLO.

    Try going and learning Tail Screw from the level 61 Crag Claws solo at level 1.

    Go on.

    I'll wait.

    Chimeras in Azys Lla do not cast the spell, otherwise people would have gone there. You can also learn it from the Thanalan Fate GoGomera or Relic Reborn Chimera.
    As far as I'm aware, the Azys Lla Chimeras cast the spells, but I admit I haven't checked.

    As for Go, Go, Gorgimera and Relic Reborn Chimera, again, these aren't feasibly soloed (Except Gorgimera as it can be insta-killed with Tail Screw/Doom, but again, it implies having these skills which themselves are locked behind Carnivale/Wanderer's Palace (Hard) or level 61 mobs/Sastasha (Hard))

    Which is literally the issue with the current implementation of the skills in question, wherein they are annoying to get because you can't solo them as level 50 (Well, Chimera ones you can solo Cutter's Cry for them at 50) so you either need to party up or get a level 70 to come carry you. This is poor design for both "Solo Class" implementation as well as "Normal Class" implementation (If BLU is redesigned and Limited Jobs changed to not be so heavily restricted) making it annoying to go get some pretty crucial spells (You need 3 Primal skills and Song of Torment in order to have your basic DPS rotation for example. With Glower being necessary to do your level 50 class quest)
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