Thavnairian Onion plans

[dutt]

My FC has been working on making onions for people. Thought I'd bounce off fellow gardeners here see if anyone had thoughts on how to tweek or if they could use. I don't claim its best way but been working pretty good for us.


Thanks Vidu Think I will go with this instead! StouterTaru way isn't bad either

[SannaR]

http://www.ffxivgardening.com/

Not sure if they are updated to current but one of the best places for all things gardening.

[dutt]

http://www.ffxivgardening.com/

Not sure if they are updated to current but one of the best places for all things gardening.

Yea I used that to make this. The method they suggest did seem a little outdated to me

[Vidu]

Personally I would switch the Nymeia Lily for Jute - Jute at least serves a prupose for several crafts, while the Lily is only used for a hat, I think?

Given that one possible Jute-cross is Jute x Mandrake, you'd also save on seeds once you get the initial breed going!

Without doing the excat math right now, I'd probably end up with one bed that has Jute growing all the time and alternating between Mandrake (to get Jute back) and Curiel (to get onions); and a second bed with Onions and Charmomille (for the Curiel) like you suggested.

[dutt]

Personally I would switch the Nymeia Lily for Jute - Jute at least serves a prupose for several crafts, while the Lily is only used for a hat, I think?

Given that one possible Jute-cross is Jute x Mandrake, you'd also save on seeds once you get the initial breed going!

Without doing the excat math right now, I'd probably end up with one bed that has Jute growing all the time and alternating between Mandrake (to get Jute back) and Curiel (to get onions); and a second bed with Onions and Charmomille (for the Curiel) like you suggested.

Nice been trying to find a way to work jute in that makes perfect sense thank you!

[Gemina]

That's not really outdated. Onions require crossing two crops that are also crossed, so it takes a really long time before you actually start getting onion yields. iirc the lead time is 21 days if only using one garden and no fertilization. And that's best case scenario where all crosses are successful, as the onions themselves take 10-days to mature. So the question really is which two crops do you want to cross?

Jute is the more profitable choice as the seeds, the crop, and the yarn all sell very well since they are used to make the nicer looking rugs in the game. Unfortunately, the yield rate for onions is much lower than other crosses.

RNG is a bit tougher to stomach when you have to wait several days for the results. Choose the least painful method.

[StouterTaru]

My 3 bed method feeds itself all the seeds needed without gathering, but requires a lot to get started:

Bed 1: Thav Onions + Linseed (Shroud Soil) -> Pahsana seeds + Linseeds
Bed 2: Glazenuts + Pahsana seeds (Thav Soil) -> Thav Onions seeds + Apricot seeds
Bed 3: Glazenuts + Apricots (Thav Soil) -> Glazenut seeds

• Never empty the bed completely; crossing is determined by what is next to a plant when you plant it, nothing else. After you harvest something, re-plant in the same spot before harvesting something else.
  
• If you run out of Apricots, replace them for a round with Pahsana seeds.
  
• If you run out of Glazenuts, don't harvest the ones in the bed until you can replace them, because they still create crosses for what you plant next to them.
  
• If you run out of Thav Onions, you can replace them with Krakka roots to crank out Pahsana seeds and Linseeds

[BillyKaplan]

Personally I would switch the Nymeia Lily for Jute - Jute at least serves a prupose for several crafts, while the Lily is only used for a hat, I think?

Given that one possible Jute-cross is Jute x Mandrake, you'd also save on seeds once you get the initial breed going!

That's v. nice. I was looking for a way to get Onions started for my fc and I have like 40 Jute seeds sitting in my retainer. I'll deffo try this out, thanks for the tip

[dutt]

That's not really outdated. Onions require crossing two crops that are also crossed, so it takes a really long time before you actually start getting onion yields. iirc the lead time is 21 days if only using one garden and no fertilization. And that's best case scenario where all crosses are successful, as the onions themselves take 10-days to mature. So the question really is which two crops do you want to cross?

Jute is the more profitable choice as the seeds, the crop, and the yarn all sell very well since they are used to make the nicer looking rugs in the game. Unfortunately, the yield rate for onions is much lower than other crosses.

RNG is a bit tougher to stomach when you have to wait several days for the results. Choose the least painful method.

http://www.ffxivgardening.com/cross-diagrams

Is what seemed outdated to me being that its all arr stuff(i think) just how I feel your entitled to feel differently. Using shard seeds and fc credit seeds seems more recent, reliable and useful for fc mates. One of the cool things is that there is many ways to do it. not trying to take that from ya. I'm not down with being uber meta so much as useful and reliable I'll remake another one incorporating jute soon

I may try with the perpetual jute loop with one bed. another jute with mandrake then cham and onions on 3rd like Vidu suggested where I'm at now figuring out how root works into it now.

It be Ideal to find a way that uses 3 beds even though we use more and make a basic guide that is a little more up to date for everyone to use. thanks for your input.

[dutt]

My 3 bed method feeds itself all the seeds needed without gathering, but requires a lot to get started:

Bed 1: Thav Onions + Linseed (Shroud Soil) -> Pahsana seeds + Linseeds
Bed 2: Glazenuts + Pahsana seeds (Thav Soil) -> Thav Onions seeds + Apricot seeds
Bed 3: Glazenuts + Apricots (Thav Soil) -> Glazenut seeds

• Never empty the bed completely; crossing is determined by what is next to a plant when you plant it, nothing else. After you harvest something, re-plant in the same spot before harvesting something else.
  
• If you run out of Apricots, replace them for a round with Pahsana seeds.
  
• If you run out of Glazenuts, don't harvest the ones in the bed until you can replace them, because they still create crosses for what you plant next to them.
  
• If you run out of Thav Onions, you can replace them with Krakka roots to crank out Pahsana seeds and Linseeds

If a plant is done can you still cross with it even though its completed? I know you can then pull up finished and with new plants be able to cross something new does it work same way if plant is ready for harvest?

dig the glazenuts in there too!