PLD Advice - Skill bloating?

[Nedkel]

Could you think of any REALLY efficient way to do that though?
Personally, I see multiple cooldowns with different durations, different downtimes, and different effectiveness so wouldn't that be bad in a lot of situations where a healer makes one too many an 'oops' and dies, or has an unfortunate disconnect?

I'm not saying it's not possible btw, I'm simply stating I don't know how to make that macro and NOT lose the effectiveness of each defensive utility

You could merge in the order you wish to be executed. With each button press of the macro it will execute one action from the list, so for example you press once you activate convalescence, then second time you activate sentinel and so on.
You could also merge few others like Circle of scorn with total eclipse, that way the first one will be circle of scorn and then after next button press eclipse will go.
You could also merge spirits withing with any GCD ability you want, or requiescat with holy spirit.
I have them, its easy.

My deffensive cd macro is this :

/macroicon "sentinel"
/ac "sentinel"
/ac "rampart"
/ac "bulwark"
/ac "convalescence"
/ac "anticipation"

You could edit it if you want, from top to down each button press will activate one CD after another.
You could put sentinel after rampart or convalescence, whatever you like.

The other one spirit withing i have with fast blade

/macroicon "spirits within"
/ac "spirits within"
/ac "fast blade"

So using fast blade will activate the CD skill first, but i have to press it again to do fast blade, you could put any GCD in the place of fast blade you want.

As for AOE abilities, it looks for me like that

/macroicon "circle of scorn"
/ac "circle of scorn"
/ac "total eclipse"

You press once you activate CoS, pressing again will use eclipse until CoS will be up.

Same you could do with requiescat and holy spirit (i dont use it personally, but maybe i will set it up later)

/macroicon "requiescat"
/ac "requiescat"
/ac "holy spirit"

With those macro you save about 6 buttons.

/macroicon ""
Is a command that will show you the skill you want to be shown on the macro button.

This is how it looks like for me, i have no problem with button bloat at all and i am playing on ps4 pad.



I just set up the separate action bar for CD's just for the sake of knowing their cooldowns.

[Campi]

macros for everything

My heart is bleeding when I see this x.x
Pls don't do this

With requiecast + HS macro you dont miss the fifth HS hit enchanced by the buff. It doesnt matter if your HS will deal damage after the buff is gone, damage is increased at the time you press the button. If you would press HS 1 sec before the buff will wear off and your character will cast the spell after the buff is finished, you still will get the bonus damage boost for that spell. I have just tested it, I had never miss the bonus for fifth spell with my macro.

You will clipp your gcd with this macro, which is a higher Dmg loss, than missing the last HS in the Req-Buff.
Anyway it's easy to get all 5 HS in the Buff. Just press Req when the GCD is ~3/4 finished

[Nedkel]

My heart is bleeding when I see this x.x
Pls don't do this






You will clipp your gcd with this macro, which is a higher Dmg loss, than missing the last HS in the Req-Buff.
Anyway it's easy to get all 5 HS in the Buff. Just press Req when the GCD is ~3/4 finished

What do you mean by clipping?

[whiskeybravo]

What do you mean by clipping?

Macros don't queue up the same as non-macro'd abilities. For example it's near impossible to double-weave with a macro unless you happen to get lucky with the server tick. This can, and usually does, cause an eventual delay between your macro and next GCD ability. To be honest, if you haven't noticed then you're either incredibly unobservant or not playing at a high level. Macros have had this problem since launch.

[Nedkel]

Macros don't queue up the same as non-macro'd abilities. For example it's near impossible to double-weave with a macro unless you happen to get lucky with the server tick. This can, and usually does, cause an eventual delay between your macro and next GCD ability. To be honest, if you haven't noticed then you're either incredibly unobservant or not playing at a high level. Macros have had this problem since launch.

You mean, Using oGCD and GCD at the same time?
I dont see much of a difference, you still have to wait about 0.2 sec for some animation before executing second action.
The delay between oGCD and GCD on macro and on 2 buttons is practically the same, test it yourself i did.
Look, take a spirits within and fast blade, combine them into macro, and on the second hotbar get them seperate, test it few times on dummy or trash mobs and compare.
Make it so the Spirits within will be used first and the fast blade, you will see the animation of spirits within on both combination ends at the exact same time, if you want i could obs it and show u.
I am playing on PC with a controller, maybe PS4 gets crazy when using macro idk, or maybe putting GCDfirst in order and oGCD second clips the animations. So far oGCD > GCD works well for me.

[whiskeybravo]

You mean, Using oGCD and GCD at the same time?
I dont see much of a difference, you still have to wait about 0.2 sec for some animation before executing second action.
The delay between oGCD and GCD on macro and on 2 buttons is practically the same, test it yourself i did.
Look, take a spirits within and fast blade, combine them into macro, and on the second hotbar get them seperate, test it few times on dummy or trash mobs and compare.
Make it so the Spirits within will be used first and the fast blade, you will see the animation of spirits within on both combination ends at the exact same time, if you want i could obs it and show u.
I am playing on PC with a controller, maybe PS4 gets crazy when using macro idk, or maybe putting GCDfirst in order and oGCD second clips the animations. So far oGCD > GCD works well for me.

Again, there are occasions where you get lucky with the server tick and it's not as noticeable. There are also situations where it can cause your group to wipe, which is why I've chosen to avoid them for any particularly important abilities. This happened to me when I tried to use a macro for shirk.

Nevermind the fact that the above example is a horribly inefficient way to use Spirits Within. There may be times when you want hold Spirits so it fits into a FoF/Trick Attack window.

[Nedkel]

Again, there are occasions where you get lucky with the server tick and it's not as noticeable. There are also situations where it can cause your group to wipe, which is why I've chosen to avoid them for any particularly important abilities. This happened to me when I tried to use a macro for shirk.

Nevermind the fact that the above example is a horribly inefficient way to use Spirits Within. There may be times when you want hold Spirits so it fits into a FoF/Trick Attack window.

When using your skills you have to keep in mind that, no matter what input you will use, there is still that "all global cooldown" for any type of action, which is about 0.2 or 0.3 sec between each ability. This contributes to the feeling of the "animation clipping" which causes you to think that there is a delay in macro between two actions in it, but when you use two separate buttons for this you feel it less of a annoyance because you have to travel your finger from point A to B.
Also you dont have to put SW into the fast blade, you could put it into the Rage of halone and it will work just fine. You still saves 1 button in your gamepade you could use for other useful macro.