Blue learning should be Party wide including non Blues

[Mirakumi]

Spent all day in Ramuh Ex - I helped a group of blues get the spell and then they bounced.
Then nobody wants to volunteer to the cause.
So it rewards the selfish?

Imo, as long as there is a BLU in the PT all should learn it - who have the class unlocked.

[Uielyave]

Nope. That'd make it too easy and too broken. Makes no sense to learn a job skill on a class that cant even learn said skill.

[BillyKaplan]

That'd make it too easy and too broken.

Opposed to what it is now? People go in there on 70 already, it's not like you have BLU parties who sync for it.

[Mirakumi]

Nope. That'd make it too easy and too broken. Makes no sense to learn a job skill on a class that cant even learn said skill.

Broken how? Easy ?? People don't even know how to do mechanics on extreme still.

[Raldo]

"Broken" as-in, not a single person would need to be on BLU at all. I could solo most of the primal skills at that point (though I suppose you could argue that for a "solo job", that's a perfectly fine concession).

[Mirakumi]

I said at least one BLU in the PT to make it work.

[Avyiur]

At that point there would be no reason to even go in on BLU. Everyone could go in on their main job and solo the primal.


Edit: Seeing as you said there needs to be at least 1 BLU in the party, I still do not think this is a good idea. You could potentially have people unlock BLU, switch class, then go in and get all the spells without ever actually having to level BLU (not like it is hard to level but still)

[Liam_Harper]

Nope. That'd make it too easy and too broken. Makes no sense to learn a job skill on a class that cant even learn said skill.

You're claiming it's currently "difficult"?

Twiddling your thumbs while a lv70 kills a boss for you isn't exactly challenging content.

[Mirakumi]

You could potentially have people unlock BLU, switch class, then go in and get all the spells without ever actually having to level BLU (not like it is hard to level but still)

I can see your point with this... Just incredible frustrated at the fact that I help a bunch of people learn and then they drop out.
EVEN when I MAKE the PF people still won't swap.

Also been in Ramuh since 9 am est and nothing lol

[JBee]

I can see your point with this... Just incredible frustrated at the fact that I help a bunch of people learn and then they drop out.
EVEN when I MAKE the PF people still won't swap.

Also been in Ramuh since 9 am est and nothing lol

Not a perfect solution, but what I setup this weekend gave positive results:

Example - Titan Hard.

"BLUE SKILL PARTY - 4/4. Swap every 5 RUNS between BLU and your 70"

It's not perfect and people will still dip out. But once you have the people ask up front for people to consider staying an additional 5 runs at the end once Group A gets theirs to give B one last shot. If it drops in those 5, everyone wins. If not, B can reset up the group in PF and keep going with the rules if they want to continue. Party filled up pretty fast with that description on Aether at least.

What's more, we got lucky and both sets got their Titan skill in under 5 runs each.