SE, the concept of "Limited Jobs" is a really bad idea, turn back now

[ApolloGenX]

I know my opinion will be unpopular with some of you but, I really hope the devs don't listen to any of you who are trying to demand BLU changed to play normal content. while I don't overly like not being able to enter MSQ content without a pre-made party I honestly like BLU itself how it is and I would like to see PUP and BST in this game as well even if they get the same treatment.


I think the reason they chose to release BLU like this was so they could fine tune it to be ready when they release more content and levels for ShadowBringers

Why though? It's the end of the expansion. Catch up mechanics are in full swing and gear is raining down on players. Now is the time to implement and test this at max level because it doesn't really matter if it's OP. We are pretty much all OP for everything at the end of expansions, now it's just blasting through stuff. I think limiting it to 50 and no DF was a huge mistake and made the job DOA for me.

[Shurrikhan]

Why though? It's the end of the expansion. Catch up mechanics are in full swing and gear is raining down on players. Now is the time to implement and test this at max level because it doesn't really matter if it's OP. We are pretty much all OP for everything at the end of expansions, now it's just blasting through stuff. I think limiting it to 50 and no DF was a huge mistake and made the job DOA for me.

This. There's no better time for beta-ing something into completion than when there's nothing of value still going on. Progression is, for all competitive intents and purposes, done.

[Colino]

Overall I think the concept of limited jobs isn't necessarily a bad one and I really think it could be interesting side content. Every since 1.0 one of my favourite things about the game is being able to do everything on one character and limited jobs could add a lot to that.

I feel like no matter how well this could have been implemented it would have generated massive amounts of salt and although I don't agree with the people saying it's just filler content to keep us subbed until 5.0, I definitely see why they feel that way.

[Shurrikhan]

Overall I think the concept of limited jobs isn't necessarily a bad one and I really think it could be interesting side content. Every since 1.0 one of my favourite things about the game is being able to do everything on one character and limited jobs could add a lot to that.

I feel like no matter how well this could have been implemented it would have generated massive amounts of salt and although I don't agree with the people saying it's just filler content to keep us subbed until 5.0, I definitely see why they feel that way.

I feel like it failed when the "limited" aspect was revealed to be true to its name. It's less than a job, when it could have been a job+.

[TThibi]

After playing a bit as bluemage I love the concept. Think about it limited is not really descriptive. You as bluemage are as strong or as weak as you want to be, nobody thinks for you except SE, every bluemage is different has differet setups and guess what they all work. SE does not have to balance blu against the other jobs even with it's only dps spell being 1000 needle for the first 50 levels it's able to solo pretty much every mob you'd try to kill even 2-4 levels higher. There's no fear of having to live up to someone else's skill to be relevant everyone can play how they like. My only complaint is how much reliant we are on aoe's, our lack of true dps spells, and an overload of redundant DoT spells. Passing over hundreds of other monsters just because they don't teach a spell when they should all teach something.

I'd suggest wholeheartedly for beastmaster and Dancer because yes those 2 are coming to limited as well. First off for beastmaster take a page from the Worgs of Game of thrones and part of Bst from FFXI, instead of charming beasts in the field use craftable Broth jugs to allow a bst to transform into a larger named monster of different families take their form, and attacks and fight as those monsters. As indestructable as a party of bluemages is imagine that coming at you.
I can see a troupe of dancers in the same light, though I'd love to see Dancer be a full job first it seems Limited jobs are more capable and fun being able to stay true to their overpowered nature rather than being weakened to slot into a party.

[MrKimper]

After playing a bit as bluemage I love the concept. Think about it limited is not really descriptive. You as bluemage are as strong or as weak as you want to be, nobody thinks for you except SE, every bluemage is different has differet setups and guess what they all work. SE does not have to balance blu against the other jobs even with it's only dps spell being 1000 needle for the first 50 levels it's able to solo pretty much every mob you'd try to kill even 2-4 levels higher. There's no fear of having to live up to someone else's skill to be relevant everyone can play how they like. My only complaint is how much reliant we are on aoe's, our lack of true dps spells, and an overload of redundant DoT spells. Passing over hundreds of other monsters just because they don't teach a spell when they should all teach something.

I'd suggest wholeheartedly for beastmaster and Dancer because yes those 2 are coming to limited as well. First off for beastmaster take a page from the Worgs of Game of thrones and part of Bst from FFXI, instead of charming beasts in the field use craftable Broth jugs to allow a bst to transform into a larger named monster of different families take their form, and attacks and fight as those monsters. As indestructable as a party of bluemages is imagine that coming at you.
I can see a troupe of dancers in the same light, though I'd love to see Dancer be a full job first it seems Limited jobs are more capable and fun being able to stay true to their overpowered nature rather than being weakened to slot into a party.

They won't make DNC limited, even Yoshida isn't that insane.

[TThibi]

I could see it as a player with a few base dances taking from ffxi, Waltzes = Def/heal, Sambas = Offense/dps, then as they level and complete tasks unlocking dance movements and actions that perform attacks, buff allies, defend, debuff, enhance self and ect ect. As a player fights they perform those moves to change and customize the dance it could be very powerful and very unique to each player and situation. In a group of 4 the dancers would feed and enhance each other to become more and more powerful, in a full party almost unstoppable and crazy strong with mosh pit insanity. Give dancer a Fan blade as a weapon that strengthens automatically as the dancer levels or as the dancer powers up in combat, this would be no joke and way too strong for a traditional ffxiv party setting just as a group of bluemages is a chainsaw in a knife fight.

[Tsumdere]

I would absolutely despise SE making more mini games limited jobs.

It speaks to a lack of creativity and unwillingness to put an inkling of effort to create full fledged jobs that have different mechanics. The current iteration of BLU is not OP at all and could be placed into current raids/dungeons/EX primals and change absolutely nothing in regards to balance considering the primals/raid bosses are immune to all of BLUs status effects lol.

I suppose SE thinks that being able to Tail Screw trash mobs in The Ghimlyt Dark would just absolutely destroy the game's balance.

Honestly at this point it just feels like they didn't want to make more shiny weapons rather than it actually being too hard to balance.

[Kallera]

Limited jobs is a bad idea. This is too important a message to have sink into obscurity.


BLU's exclusion, the things that it cannot do, are the takeaways of limited job implementation. Its forced participation into party content leaves it forced to accept handouts from the more complete and higher level jobs.


Being banished from the msq and kept out of progession only makes it more pointless in the face of vertical progressions's reliance on tomestones and raids.

[Jandor]

They won't make DNC limited, even Yoshida isn't that insane.

Hmm, I don't know about that. He made BLU limited after all, and BLU is arguably even more popular than DNC is.