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    Fyce's Avatar
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    SE literally went out of their way to say that BLU was not intended for parties. Repeatedly saying it over and over during the live letter.
    Do you imply that, somehow, a job that can one-shot some bosses and completly wipe trash mobs in dungeons is actually "intended for parties"?
    "Not suited for parties" means "not balanced for regular parties, we don't want you to go in DF and ruin some newbies' first experiences with a dungeon". At least that's how I understood it. And the way the job was implemented in the game doesn't really goes against my comprehension of that aspect of the job when they presented it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Also "progression" of a job does mean how it levels. You get more exp when you kill overworld mobs than regular jobs do. (happy face icon) You get literally the same amount of exp from dungeon mobs as regular jobs would. (normal face icon) And you can't do the roulettes for the bonus exp you get like normal jobs can cause you are locked out. (hence the sad face icon)

    That is how the BLU job "progresses," how it "levels."
    Well, I could easily argue that Blue Mage's "progression" is also tied to learning skills. I mean, its jobs quests don't only require a level, but also learning a skill. You can't "progress" that questline if you don't learn skill. And if you include that notion to the slide you are refering to, it still completly correct.

    But regardless of that argument, SE still never ruled out that you'd have to party to get some skills. If that's what people assumed after seeing "designed for solo play" and "not suited for parties", well, they simply assumed incorrectly. What else to you want me to tell you? People assumed something, got it wrong, and are now blaming SE. What's that supposed to achieve exactly? Having SE saying sorry about not making their presentation more clear? Because that's the only thing you'll get from them at best.

    Yes, the presentation was not precise enough and lead to people assuming wrong things. Now what? They won't change the job just to make it fit a powerpoint.
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    Markov Dracul
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    Do you imply that, somehow, a job that can one-shot some bosses and completly wipe trash mobs in dungeons is actually "intended for parties"?
    Yes. It was intended for parties. Pre-made parties. The fact that it takes 4 blues to mop through lvl 50 trash mobs the same amount of time it takes for a Tank, Healer, and 2 DPS to do so does not equate to being overpowered. Also only the first two bosses of a dungeon can be hit by your insta death gimmick spells like Missile and Tail Screw. Making it take even longer for a party of BLUs to kill the final boss of a dungeon. Also most of the 1st and 2nd bosses, as well as the 3rd, are all immune to your status effects that allow you to do spell combos which again keeps you from doing your best damage. This is supposed to be an overpowered broken class that can't go into duty finder because it may or may not have skills that either make the fights take to long, which t hey still do, or ruins a person's experience. Why should your 1 hit spells not work on everything 100% of the time? If you go into a fight with a BLU you know what you are getting into cause you had to agree to it. You formed the premade with them able to join you. As blue is it "requires" parties to do anything. And not just a party of BLUs, a real party with tanks and healers and maybe other DPS besides BLUs. Should some limited job that was so OP or broken that they had to remove it from DF be so week that they can't take down final Dungeon bosses or Primals in a full party of BLUs? A BLU should be able to walk into a Primal fight, see Ifrit cast eruption, and then either Doom it, Missile it to death, or Tail Screw it and kill it. It should be that broken. You would still need a BLU tanking, but you wouldn't need a lvl 70 to carry your sorry butt across the finish line.
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