Is it really that shameful to run order of join Lootmaster pf's for dogs?

[Nora_of_Mira]

I feel like this is just the opinion of the type of people who have no optimism, and to prove this wrong i have run farms before where the full party has actually stuck around to get the mount.

One mount? or 8 mounts? that changes the context entirely.

It is everyone else's own obligation to know the chances of things before they join. Just like its your own obligation to know the chances of a mount even dropping.

People know gambling is bad and yet we have measures to prevent people from advertising gambling to children, for example.

The current drop rate of Seiryu is abysmally low at the moment and a lot people wont see a drop in 50-99 runs. If your party is 7/8 filled and an 8th person /tell's you and asks "hey, if a join, are you really going to stay until all of us get a mount?" what are you going to respond with?