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[ChocoFeru]

49 skills out of which you can only equip 24 at a time. 49 skills out of which many are effectively the same skill with different elements because you need to be able to perform adequately in the Carnivale regardless of enemy elements. Skills that might actually hinder your progress in most content catered even for BLU like Final Sting and Self Destruct.

24 at a time, but still 49 skills, and more will come at lv60 BLU. And yep, they're useful in the Carnival, that's the point.

You're right we got worse than generic abilities we got very situational Carnival fodder moves and the rest are AoEs how intuitive I think the best spells (if you can call them "best") are probably Bad Breath, Song of Torment, Boost, Off-Guard, and White Wind wanna know why? Because they're actually useful even at lvl 50, which is why Song of Torment is lvl 50 since it's powerful DoT the rest are just stuns and sleeps and freezes etc that can't even combo off regular bosses which is why Carnival is sadly the only "endgame" when we were promised a solo job that was OP it's not.

It is OP at lv50 content. Just read the skill descriptions to figure it out.

I hit 50 today and I spent all day trying to get Primal Abilities as well as Dungeon ones why is there such terrible RNG? The guy who made Atma designed this and I already dreaded what was gonna happen, lo and behold it's more low % RNG while you AFK and 1 person solos the boss, brilliant gameplay. It didn't destroy it's essence but if this is what the future of BLU is not even the Carnival is gonna save it I did multiple fights and all you do is find the 3-5 abilities that'll cheese you through that fight and you move onto the next easy gimmicky fight, most of it was forgettable but it's okay we saved BLUs identity even though we have a low tiered-multi-useless collectathon mage thanks SE.

Yep, RNG is pretty bad. I got Glower at the second try, and I did 30+ Garuda EX and still didn't get the skill.

As for who cares about killing bosses and the like a lot of people got BLU being promised that we could solo things such as EX primals we can't we need parties it's almost like we have to do duties on a solo class GASP not to mention you have to get Mind Blast and Glower which don't always drop so thanks for that too SE. BLU is a trainwreck and we're the beta testers for it if they plan on revamping the combat they better nail it because if this is a sign to come from BLU it's not looking good for ShB.

Why would you want to solo lv50 EX content as lv50 BLU anyways?

[Awful]

The reveal video was a blue mage fighting Shiva solo and learning her bow move.

That was followed by a slide that said:

• Designed for solo play.
• Not suited for Parties.

They explained that they had made this decision because BLU is too tough to balance properly.

I mean, come on, if you can't see how all that is incredibly misleading then I don't know what to tell you.

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[Awful]

It is OP at lv50 content. Just read the skill descriptions to figure it out.

Yep totally OP lemme just solo Ifrit HM because all I can do is spam heal and slowly wittle his HP down to learn 1 spell when I can just get a lvl 70 person to waste their time doing it, or suicide and not learn it great OP skills! I'd rather do Ifrit normal because it's actually soloable for the wrong reasons what a concept.

Yep, RNG is pretty bad. I got Glower at the second try, and I did 30+ Garuda EX and still didn't get the skill. Why would you want to solo lv50 EX content as lv50 BLU anyways?

You..just answered your own question? That's the only reason you do the EX trials for the spells to do Carnival then you never go back to do it again after slogging through 6+ hours today and getting 1 spell I can safely say that the endgame of BLU is just not suited for the game. It's been done and offers nothing of value other than collecting spells for the sake of it, why should I have to rely on other classes when I'm a "solo class"? Why do I need to bug lvl 70s to bring me into Ramuh EX? These are design choices SE made themselves so don't look at me and say "oh they are OP just figure it out" it's a time waster to solo Ifrit HM yourself for example when you can farm normal mode to take 1 min to kill him.

You're really not really making sense here when the endgame is to get these spells to do Carnival when the endgame is lackluster at 50, the game does a whole 180 what was fun leveling and getting spells is now a chore and unfun riddled by RNG and asking for people to do your EX primals, when they leave the groups leave it's not great game design.

[BubblyBoar]

Been a few days and honeymoon period for BLU seems to be dying out pretty quickly. I'm hearing complaints about how low the drop rate of spells for primals is. How simple Carnivale can be done with so few spells. How the job is boring to play (outside of memes) because so few spells are useful. The overworld didn't get any more fun. BLU isn't broken and is actually underpowered when cheese doesn't work. I'll give it a few more days to see if opinions change at all.

[Jandor]

You're really not really making sense here when the endgame is to get these spells to do Carnival when the endgame is lackluster at 50, the game does a whole 180 what was fun leveling and getting spells is now a chore and unfun riddled by RNG and asking for people to do your EX primals, when they leave the groups leave it's not great game design.

It's annoying because they could have made gathering these high end primal skills a BLU mini-game in itself.

More elemental skills, a whole range of fire spells for example, and if you queue as a solo BLU for Shiva Ex then elemental weaknesses and strengths are loaded in as well. A "default" 50 BLU isn't OP against Shiva, but loaded out with fire spells you've collected, you could do it.

Could have possibly put a cool spin on some old fights.

[SDaemon]

The reveal video was a blue mage fighting Shiva solo and learning her bow move.

That was followed by a slide that said:

• Designed for solo play.
• Not suited for Parties.

They explained that they had made this decision because BLU is too tough to balance properly.

I mean, come on, if you can't see how all that is incredibly misleading then I don't know what to tell you.

Job gameplay trailers SE has released in the past have shown the job in question fighting an enemy with no one else around in a clearly staged situation [NIN, SAM, RDM etc], why would I assume this time that it wasn't a staged situation? Clips to show you could learn Shiva's bow attack, and showing off spells it could learn? Reveal trailer shows cut clips of 4 different BLU spells being used and then cuts to the action learned screen as Shiva is defeated before cutting to a clip of Shiva's bow attack. If that doesn't come off as staged to you I'm not sure what to tell you.

As for that slideshow as a whole, it goes into details in the slides of that presentation as to those working points of "Designed for solo play" and "Not suited for Parties";

"Since the capabilities of a blue mage are dependent upon what abilities they have learned, they can only participate in instanced duties as members of a preformed party."

Talking on why SE deems it is not suited for party play but also the slides go on to say that part of the progression involves grouping up and partaking in preformed parties.

And it also goes into talking about the Masked Carnival a solo only feature for BLU that the job is clearly being designed around.

"Upon attaining level 50, you may use the many abilities you have learned to undertake unique challenges in this blue mage exclusive arena."

"While blue mages can learn abilities while in parties, the Masked Carnivale can only be accessed by solo blue mages."

After viewing the entire presentation when it happened, I was never under the impression that BLU was going to be an OP powerhouse and soloing EX Primals and I'm certainly not going to get upset over promises that were never made to me.

[BillyKaplan]

And it also goes into talking about the Masked Carnival a solo only feature for BLU that the job is clearly being designed around.

RDM is about the one job that can solo PotD. It can still perform admirably in group content. Saying BLU has a solo mode, and saying BLU is designed for solo play are two completely different things. The Devs said one thing; we got the other. If they weren't intentionally misleading or just misinformed, that entire presentation is one of the biggest cases of poor phrasing I have ever seen in my life.

[SDaemon]

RDM is about the one job that can solo PotD. It can still perform admirably in group content. Saying BLU has a solo mode, and saying BLU is designed for solo play are two completely different things. The Devs said one thing; we got the other. If they weren't intentionally misleading or just misinformed, that entire presentation is one of the biggest cases of poor phrasing I have ever seen in my life.

How is content designed exclusively for BLU to play solo and BLU being "designed for solo play" two completely different things? PotD isn't designed to be solo'd exclusively by RDM and RDM wasn't exclusively designed for the purpose of soloing PotD.

[BillyKaplan]

How is content designed exclusively for BLU to play solo and BLU being "designed for solo play" two completely different things?

That question shames both of us, I hope you realize that. BLU could've been an unlimited job but still had the Masked Carnivale all to its own. Similar to how every job in the game is designed for solo play in some form or another because the MSQ doesn't let you bring friends. The difference is, all other jobs also play nice with others. BLU doesn't and it has nothing to do with the Masked Carnivale.

[SDaemon]

That question shames both of us, I hope you realize that. BLU could've been an unlimited job but still had the Masked Carnivale all to its own.

You were the one who posited that they were two completely different things, I'm just asking for clarification.