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    It would be a credit to SE to give some of their female leads a bit of love in our favorite MMO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessMarbleSays View Post
    It would be a credit to SE to give some of their female leads a bit of love in our favorite MMO!
    Oh man... Yeah, just look at our avatars.... I'm gonna say let the males have this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Oh man... Yeah, just look at our avatars.... I'm gonna say let the males have this one.
    I can respect not wanting to rock the boat, but regardless is merely an opinion of my perception of imbalance in the glam options, I don’t mean to say “how dare they, males get better boohoo.” it’s nothing like that. I just mean to point out what I think are inconsistent flaws in distribution of certain content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessMarbleSays View Post
    I can respect not wanting to rock the boat, but regardless is merely an opinion of my perception of imbalance in the glam options, I don’t mean to say “how dare they, males get better boohoo.” it’s nothing like that. I just mean to point out what I think are inconsistent flaws in distribution of certain content.
    I won't argue that the majority of iconic FF glamour options are more catered to males, and that there is an imbalance there. But I cannot ignore how favored females are when it comes to overall glamour options in the game. But I also don't see it as an issue either because I am very traditional and see male attire as utilitarian rather than fashionable, but their gear should always look really cool, powerful, and masculine; and a lot of it does.

    It would be nice if our heroine outfits were also released. I've been wanting Aerith and Rinoa outfits forever now. But they would be gender locked for sure, which could hurt their sales theoretically, but I honestly don't think there would be that much of a difference at all. Even non-shop buyers like myself might fall off of the wagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I won't argue that the majority of iconic FF glamour options are more catered to males, and that there is an imbalance there. But I cannot ignore how favored females are when it comes to overall glamour options in the game. But I also don't see it as an issue either because I am very traditional and see male attire as utilitarian rather than fashionable, but their gear should always look really cool, powerful, and masculine; and a lot of it does.

    It would be nice if our heroine outfits were also released. I've been wanting Aerith and Rinoa outfits forever now. But they would be gender locked for sure, which could hurt their sales theoretically, but I honestly don't think there would be that much of a difference at all. Even non-shop buyers like myself might fall off of the wagon.

    My thoughts on it at that, since most of the gear we get in game is male-styled and a majority of the themed glamours are male. What’s the harm in giving females a couple of the glamours that generally we aren’t getting to see for at best a gender-locked reason.
    Though that shouldn’t be an issue since there are several male glamours that are equally locked, Butler attire, and the two I mentioned in my previous posting just to name a few.

    It would just seem reasonable to give females the counterparts to the male glamours we already have locked or not locked, haha why not let guys run around as tifa or garnet. :3c
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessMarbleSays View Post
    My thoughts on it at that, since most of the gear we get in game is male-styled and a majority of the themed glamours are male. What’s the harm in giving females a couple of the glamours that generally we aren’t getting to see for at best a gender-locked reason.
    Well, there is no actual harm that would come from releasing more female glamour options (you won't hear me complain, heh), there is already an uproar of so many glamour releases being designed for females whether they are gender locked or not. However, I honestly don't know the exact ratio of gender locked gear, but from what I have observed and see available, females own the glamour market.

    haha why not let guys run around as tifa or garnet. :3c
    Oh God, please no! Garnet wouldn't be that bad at all, but males lack a particular anatomy to fill out Tifa's outfits ;p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Well, there is no actual harm that would come from releasing more female glamour options (you won't hear me complain, heh), there is already an uproar of so many glamour releases being designed for females whether they are gender locked or not. However, I honestly don't know the exact ratio of gender locked gear, but from what I have observed and see available, females own the glamour market.


    Oh God, please no! Garnet wouldn't be that bad at all, but males lack a particular anatomy to fill out Tifa's outfits ;p
    Females may have more "purely glamour" outfits, but most gear seems more in line with a male design than one for females. There are things they could do to tweak them to make them more feminine, but people would throw fits like they do know that "gear is gender based, everything needs to be available for everyone or riot"


    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    This game needs more skimpy male outfit options.
    Every outfit bar the DRG AF that is skimpy on females is skimpy or skimpier on males.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Well, there is no actual harm that would come from releasing more female glamour options (you won't hear me complain, heh), there is already an uproar of so many glamour releases being designed for females whether they are gender locked or not. However, I honestly don't know the exact ratio of gender locked gear, but from what I have observed and see available, females own the glamour market.


    Oh God, please no! Garnet wouldn't be that bad at all, but males lack a particular anatomy to fill out Tifa's outfits ;p
    I’ve done a personal count of who has more glamours based on gender and currently with mog station items included, it’s males for themed looks, not including accessories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I won't argue that the majority of iconic FF glamour options are more catered to males, and that there is an imbalance there. But I cannot ignore how favored females are when it comes to overall glamour options in the game.
    But there is a massive difference between having more iconic outfits for males, and having just more general glams for females. The Thavnairian Bustier is most certainly not a replacement for something like Rinoa's outfit.

    I don't even like most of the female locked outfits, but I'd love to have any of the outfits from the female counterparts of the male non-XIV characters we have. But sadly all we have is Lightning which is not a veteran reward so it must be bought from the Mog Station, and Yuna which is no longer available.

    There is a very clear imbalance of how glams are targeted, towards both male and female characters. There should not be significantly more male representation for non-XIV characters, and glams in general should not favour female characters more. Both should be equal.

    And please no one talk to me about how male outfits are more gender neutral so that's why we should get more male FF outfits than female. That's basically telling players who play female characters that they should be happy with hand-me-downs just because society says it's fine for a woman to wear men's clothing. I don't care if Squall's outfit looks good on a woman. I don't want to dress up like Squall. I want to dress up like Rinoa.

    Gender locking should be abolished anyway. Let everyone wear whatever they want with whatever hairstyle they want. More cosmetic options is always a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    But there is a massive difference between having more iconic outfits for males, and having just more general glams for females. The Thavnairian Bustier is most certainly not a replacement for something like Rinoa's outfit.

    I don't even like most of the female locked outfits, but I'd love to have any of the outfits from the female counterparts of the male non-XIV characters we have. But sadly all we have is Lightning which is not a veteran reward so it must be bought from the Mog Station, and Yuna which is no longer available.

    There is a very clear imbalance of how glams are targeted, towards both male and female characters. There should not be significantly more male representation for non-XIV characters, and glams in general should not favour female characters more. Both should be equal.

    And please no one talk to me about how male outfits are more gender neutral so that's why we should get more male FF outfits than female. That's basically telling players who play female characters that they should be happy with hand-me-downs just because society says it's fine for a woman to wear men's clothing. I don't care if Squall's outfit looks good on a woman. I don't want to dress up like Squall. I want to dress up like Rinoa.

    Gender locking should be abolished anyway. Let everyone wear whatever they want with whatever hairstyle they want. More cosmetic options is always a good thing.
    Preach it! ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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