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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoi View Post
    What I'm trying to tell is that it obviously happened after I realize it was needed, thus having an impact on my early experience with the blue mage. That's why I hoped SE would have done something for this, like creating a dedicated channel for blue mage talk, or restricting it to private discussions for a few days.
    So then were you looking for them to code an AI that detects any talk that might be about blue mage, or just to permaban anyone who doesn’t play the game the way you want them to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrestia View Post
    So then were you looking for them to code an AI that detects any talk that might be about blue mage, or just to permaban anyone who doesn’t play the game the way you want them to?
    A dedicated channel for blue mage talk? Along with an announce in-game with the blue mage message (the purple one, when you log on)? On my server, we kept the novice network spoiler free for the MSQ, so player "moderation" works. Just redirect the people to the dedicated channel when needed and in no-time, everyone will use it. They could have even spoken about this channel at the end of the blue mage quest so that a lot knew about it.

    This is just one possibility among others. You're being way too sarcastic on what I said and thus you forgot to think about the possibilities. Sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoi View Post
    A dedicated channel for blue mage talk? Along with an announce in-game with the blue mage message (the purple one, when you log on)? On my server, we kept the novice network spoiler free for the MSQ, so player "moderation" works. Just redirect the people to the dedicated channel when needed and in no-time, everyone will use it. They could have even spoken about this channel at the end of the blue mage quest so that a lot knew about it.

    This is just one possibility among others. You're being way too sarcastic on what I said and thus you forgot to think about the possibilities. Sad.
    SAD AND BAD!?

    I didn’t “forget” anything. But even if you read the MOTD every time you log in, I promise not everyone does. That’s the risk you run when you publish a MOTD with no “real news” every day. It becomes a blur to most people.

    Even assuming, which is a massive reach, that everyone did read this: what’s to stop people from ignoring it either because they’re trolling you with spoilers or because they find the channels they already use more convenient? You’re not going to get this spoiler-free environment you’re asking for by asking nicely. Short of actively screening every chat message before it goes to your chat window, they cannot prevent it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrestia View Post
    SAD AND BAD!?

    I didn’t “forget” anything. But even if you read the MOTD every time you log in, I promise not everyone does. That’s the risk you run when you publish a MOTD with no “real news” every day. It becomes a blur to most people.

    Even assuming, which is a massive reach, that everyone did read this: what’s to stop people from ignoring it either because they’re trolling you with spoilers or because they find the channels they already use more convenient? You’re not going to get this spoiler-free environment you’re asking for by asking nicely. Short of actively screening every chat message before it goes to your chat window, they cannot prevent it.
    You know, theres an option you can hide anything thats text message from yell to shout in the chat window. OwO So if your seeing spoilers, its your fault, not other players. Especial not SE's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akor View Post
    You know, theres an option you can hide anything thats text message from yell to shout in the chat window. OwO So if your seeing spoilers, its your fault, not other players. Especial not SE's fault.
    Nonsense. Shout is a necessary tool for finding groups from Eureka to BLU, Hunts are announced via Shout too, and to a lesser extent, Yell and Say. To hide any of these means to risk gimping your experience of the game and missing vital communication.
    The only person who's fault it is for spoiling things, is the person spoiling it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Nonsense. Shout is a necessary tool for finding groups from Eureka to BLU, Hunts are announced via Shout too, and to a lesser extent, Yell and Say. To hide any of these means to risk gimping your experience of the game and missing vital communication.
    The only person who's fault it is for spoiling things, is the person spoiling it.
    To a lot of people, the shout you refer to as 'spoiling' is as helpful as the other shout-types you mentioned. It's very subjective. Therefore it's up to every person to decide what they prefer - to get 'spoiled' and benefit from the rest of those boons, or avoid spoilers and miss out on everything else. It's not one's job to censor your chat channel in this game but yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    To a lot of people, the shout you refer to as 'spoiling' is as helpful as the other shout-types you mentioned. It's very subjective. Therefore it's up to every person to decide what they prefer - to get 'spoiled' and benefit from the rest of those boons, or avoid spoilers and miss out on everything else. It's not one's job to censor your chat channel in this game but yours.
    This is true, but it doesn't make it any less the fault of the person shouting the spoiler.
    As you must weigh up the risk/benefits of hiding shout/yell, when you shout a spoiler you weigh up the risk/benefits of doing so.
    You can always Tell the person asking.

    Being your fault doesn't mean you need to be censored or that it should be against the rules, but those who are spoiled are justified in being annoyed at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Nonsense. Shout is a necessary tool for finding groups from Eureka to BLU, Hunts are announced via Shout too, and to a lesser extent, Yell and Say. To hide any of these means to risk gimping your experience of the game and missing vital communication.
    The only person who's fault it is for spoiling things, is the person spoiling it.
    If u dont want to get spoild your going search for ppl who dont want to get spoild. You either create PF for this or u hope ppl who dont want to get spoiled dint hide shout or chat in general. You just cant blame ppl who shout out whats the next mob they need to kill. You cant enforce ppl to stop spoiling it for you.

    Like Billy sayd, other ppl want to know what comes next.
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    Last edited by Akor; 01-16-2019 at 10:29 PM.

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