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    Aside of whether the number of votes in a poll is suitable for representing the overall population, it's also different if the poll is truly random or voluntary. Selecting 100 random forum members and requiring them to fill out a survey will be a better representation of "what everyone thinks" than offering a voluntary survey that gets filled out by 100 people who have strong enough feelings on it to want to vote.
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    Jkap Goat
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    I'm really enjoying BLU alot
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    It's not the number of people in the sample that's the problem, it's the portion they represent. It doesn't matter if your sample is 100, 1000, or 10000, if everyone polled is a 20-25 yr old female, you're gonna get skewed results because that wont represent the population as a whole.

    The players that go on forums and outside the game sources are not representative of the player base as a whole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    I'm really enjoying BLU alot
    so far, it really BLU my expectations out of the water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seraseth View Post
    It's not the number of people in the sample that's the problem, it's the portion they represent. It doesn't matter if your sample is 100, 1000, or 10000, if everyone polled is a 20-25 yr old female, you're gonna get skewed results because that wont represent the population as a whole.

    The players that go on forums and outside the game sources are not representative of the player base as a whole.
    Pretty much this. The results were biased from the start. Taking a poll on a forum isn't even close to a random sampling of the general population. It's a random sampling of forum posters, who often have very different opinions compared to regular players.

    It's easy to forget here on the boards where we talk about minutia and have in depth discussions about balance and endgame and the like, but most players don't care about those things at all. The vast majority of players spend the vast majority of their time not raiding. Reading internet threads it may feel like the entire community is up in arms about BLU not being able to raid or use the DF, but the reality is that most players probably don't care in the first place, and you just don't hear about it because those people aren't posting here.
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    Last edited by Brightamethyst; 01-16-2019 at 02:10 AM.

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    The idea behind blue mage is excellent, and I'm having fun with it. But to think that I have to isolate myself from the community to experience this content to its full extent makes me think something is wrong in the execution. SE should really have forbidden the spoilers on public chat channels, at least for a time. I had to turn all of them off because there was a spoiler on how to get a blue mage skill every 3 minutes. But on this one I have to agree that for once, it's not only SE's fault, that's also the lack of education and respect and SE has no control over it.
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    Shame to see this thread about enjoining a new job in the game get turned into a thread bickering about polls.

    Anyways I agree with the OP, I’m having a lot of fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoi View Post
    SE should really have forbidden the spoilers on public chat channels, at least for a time. I had to turn all of them off because there was a spoiler on how to get a blue mage skill every 3 minutes.
    Hmmmmm...
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    I'm feeling so immersed right now waiting for glide bombs to spawn so people can kill them before they cast self destruct.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Hmmmmm...
    An exchange means something is asked and something is delivered, there are at least 2 persons involved in an exchange and you should not involve people who don't want to. Yelling on global channels what you found without knowing if anyone else wants the information is not something I would call exchange at all. At best it's spreading information, at worst it's spam and/or spoilers, and it's most likely to interfere with others experience because no one asked for this.

    Private messages and parties exist for a reason, they keep your talk to the concerned people. When someone is asking you something, do you go in the middle of the street and yell the answer so that everyone can hear it? I believe not.

    I'm not saying that the players should not share information. They simply should do it with other players that are asking for this, and thus not use the global chat channels.
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    Last edited by Stoi; 01-16-2019 at 03:24 AM.
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