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    Large majority? Please share your related poll/documentation for this. Gets really old coming here and listening to the vocal minority think the game revolves around them.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 01-16-2019 at 12:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Large majority? Please share your related poll/documentation for this. Gets really old coming here and listening to the vocal minority think the game revolves around them
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...our-support%21

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...xing-Blue-Mage

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...o-rest-of-game

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ted_heres_why/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ge_discussion/

    Just to name a few but the community has been vocal about it just as such there are people who enjoy it and they should I wasn't speaking for everyone but a large majority and these are only a few threads of the giant debate that's been going on for weeks now, you must be living under a rock if you missed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...our-support%21

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...xing-Blue-Mage

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...o-rest-of-game

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ted_heres_why/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ge_discussion/

    Just to name a few but the community has been vocal about it just as such there are people who enjoy it and they should I wasn't speaking for everyone but a large majority and these are only a few threads of the giant debate that's been going on for weeks now, you must be living under a rock if you missed it.
    Forums aren't the community, sorry. They represent a small portion of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    I'm obviously not speaking for everyone but if you've been reading the forums or the Reddit you'd be a little informed rather than speaking on behalf of everyone else on the forums.
    Considering how hoted are the debate in both reddit and the forums and the actual number of people posting on those, you'd be a little more informed to not call you part of a "large majority". Every debate is between two vocal minorities because the majority don't speak.

    Especially since people saying they want BLU as a regular job don't know what they'd have to sacrifice for that. They say things like "It's easy to have both" without any actual evidence on how the job would have to be implemented, or would be received, used and dealt with in real situations.

    And, they'd still probably complain that we don't have any new type of content to sink some of our time...
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 01-16-2019 at 12:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Forums aren't the community, sorry. They represent a small portion of it.
    That's how surveys work. You don't need to ask the entire population. Just a small sample to extrapolate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    That's how surveys work. You don't need to ask the entire population. Just a small sample to extrapolate.
    oh really and that sample is statistically significant? Sorry done here going back to having fun with blu and happy it's not a real job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Forums aren't the community, sorry. They represent a small portion of it.
    Polls are always extrapolated from a smaller community and this is the largest data set we have:


    https://www.strawpoll.me/16866229/r
    (~6k)
    Also 100+ votes on the forum tends to be a pretty good number size (some of those threads).


    The poll really needed a third choice imo of "would you like to see both?" but seeing as people were stuck between two options there is clearly some people who want something. Personal really do not want learning mechanic removed, but want to see it raid as well (obviously in DF changes need to be made for balance, but leave limited side alone).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 01-16-2019 at 12:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Also 100+ votes on the forum tends to be a pretty good number size.[/HB]
    100 votes from a forum community? That represents the community? You can't be serious. My statistics teacher would love these comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    100 votes from a forum community? That represents the community? You can't be serious. My statistics teacher would love these comments.
    A good number for this community -_- (numbers don't get much larger than that very often). Please don't be facetious.

    Besides I also linked a poll with nearly 6K votes (which was quite divided, and needed more options but still a large number lol), I was merely stating that on the forums 100+ is a pretty large number (forums don't get much attention).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 01-16-2019 at 12:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Just a small sample to extrapolate.
    You still need a decent sample for your result to have any relevance. And the actual number of people using the forums is way to small to make an extrapolation to the whole playerbase.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 01-16-2019 at 12:42 AM.

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