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  1. #18711
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Two stories to add to the thread

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    I entered Cutter's Cry this morning for leveling DR on PLD prior to the reset. I said hi, got responses back from both BRDs, and waited for the WHM to cast protect. The WHM proceeds to run around in circles around the party as we wait. As I'm about to type "Protect please" they finally realize they have to cast Protect.

    This pretty much gives me an idea about what to expect for the rest of the run and I'm not surprised about the passive aggressive petulant attitude the WHM show cased. I'd imagine because I wasn't going at a pace the WHM deemed to be "suitable" for their patience; they decided to run around a lot, do a lot of nothing but hit me with Cure or Cure II, run ahead to pull additional mobs, stay at max range to cure me, etc.. They never let me die but the only times they were actually DPSing was when I guess they felt like I was pulling at a speed they liked (IE, there isn't anymore mobs that can be pulled, or we're at a boss).

    It was more annoying than anything else, but they never said anything anyway so eh, I'll just finish the run and then ended up black listing them as I didn't really want to deal with them after that.

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    Later in the day, I walked into Orbonne Monastery on WHM with two friends to try to acquire our weekly loot. First thing that is mentioned in party chat is a Dragoon commenting that he's expecting everyone to know the third boss mechanics. He mentions this in party chat, where myself and a few others mention to have patience with the raid because we're still in week 1. The Dragoon then repeats themselves in alliance chat, and then continues into party chat about how this raid is more difficult than the others and the "non-raiders / savage raiders" should be prepared for the difficulty.

    This dragoon is equipped has equipped i390 and below gear but has an UCoB spear glammed over their i380 crafted weapon. Also, nothing is melded. I am highly suspicious of this Dragoon given their attitude and gear score / melds.

    So, to short form the Dragoon's performance on the first two bosses - the dragoon manages to get hit by almost every single mechanic in the two fights. They died no less than five times against the first boss ( never survived the first boss' "attack the weakness" mechanic ) and I think at least twice or three times during the second boss. I feel like they also died against the first trash pack as well by not getting out of AoEs. They also died to the trash pack before the third boss by I guess not dodging those tri beam AoEs or something? I dunno, all I saw was their HP going from full to 0 instantly. They were equally as mystified.

    We make it to the third boss and well, I will admit I got passive aggressive with the Dragoon.



    Call me a sensitive healer, but I don't appreciate being passive aggressively told to "do my job better" when you get damaged to an avoidable mechanic followed almost immediately with a stack mechanic that you're stacking for.

    Also, I don't appreciate people telling my raid to "know the mechanics" when you're going to basically get clipped by every single mechanic in the raid and then comment that the "two other bosses are easy to power through".

    So, now that is out of the way, we clean up fourth boss without too much issue (the Dragoon died two or three more times, I think). We get to loot, not everyone is rolling so I take a moment to go to the washroom then come back to this:



    And yes, I am serious - I would rather play Mahjong then PvP in FFXIV in any serious capacity, lol. I do not doubt the skill level needed to play competitively in a PvP setting and I have no interest in learning that skill set. I get enough of it as is in Overwatch =p

    I also ended up black listing this Dragoon and headed off on my merry way. No need to deal with someone who, I assume, bought their UCoB clear.
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    Last edited by Ghishlain; 01-14-2019 at 09:23 AM.

  2. #18712
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Seiryu really coordinated his shiki to kill us. His ground slam was on the east side of the map and the tsunami was coming from that side too. There was a lot of panicking and running around. In hindsight it would have been better to eat the tsunami and take a little swim.
    (1)

  3. #18713
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    Cincierta's Avatar
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    Alaha Vellonnu
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Well, my friend just reminded me in a dungeon run why we both sometimes hate randoms.

    Queued up for the wall on an alt, party comp was PLD (friend), WHM (me), SAM, and BLM.

    My friend who had leveled blm to 60+ and watched on the first trash pull that the blm was not utilizing his rotations correctly at all, realized that the blm we had sucked. Random Blizz 4 on mobs and bosses, and he kept jumping between spells. He tells me this and I start to keep an eye on him while keeping the party healed. The sam wasn't so bad: they were using a proper rotation though, but they were unusually slow about it.

    First boss goes down relatively fine with me helping with the dps and keeping regens up, though I notice I'm always 2nd on aggro lists. We get to the second boss and he uses his red light mechanic. Both my friend and I don't move, the two dps we had immediately move and get smacked. On every. Single. One.

    Little do I know that this was a major red flag for later.

    We get through and the blm still isn't using their rotations very well at all, the sam is spamming aoes, and I could hear my friend facepalming on discord. We get to the final boss and once the restraint collar hits me, I realize something was terribly amiss.

    None of the dps, save for the tank, were attacking the collar.

    The cast finishes and I immediately die while the dps are still focused on the boss. We wipe and respawn. I point out in chat that the dps need to focus the collar or the healer dies, which means they die. Same thing happens on round 2.

    Both my friend and I sigh, and I explain with auto-translate to get the collar or everyone will die. We engage again, and I'm hit with the collar. This time my friend had just about had it with the dps not getting the collar off of me and he marks it. The cast goes of for a third time and I die, followed by another wipe. We respawn and I asked my friend if we should just leave as I watch the sam and blm head back for the shortcut on respawning. The vote abandon went through.

    One would think that something targetting your healer would be something everyone should focus on, but I guess that's too hard for some people.
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  4. #18714
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cincierta View Post
    Well, my friend just reminded me in a dungeon run why we both sometimes hate randoms.

    Queued up for the wall on an alt, party comp was PLD (friend), WHM (me), SAM, and BLM.

    My friend who had leveled blm to 60+ and watched on the first trash pull that the blm was not utilizing his rotations correctly at all, realized that the blm we had sucked. Random Blizz 4 on mobs and bosses, and he kept jumping between spells. He tells me this and I start to keep an eye on him while keeping the party healed. The sam wasn't so bad: they were using a proper rotation though, but they were unusually slow about it.

    First boss goes down relatively fine with me helping with the dps and keeping regens up, though I notice I'm always 2nd on aggro lists. We get to the second boss and he uses his red light mechanic. Both my friend and I don't move, the two dps we had immediately move and get smacked. On every. Single. One.

    Little do I know that this was a major red flag for later.

    We get through and the blm still isn't using their rotations very well at all, the sam is spamming aoes, and I could hear my friend facepalming on discord. We get to the final boss and once the restraint collar hits me, I realize something was terribly amiss.

    None of the dps, save for the tank, were attacking the collar.

    The cast finishes and I immediately die while the dps are still focused on the boss. We wipe and respawn. I point out in chat that the dps need to focus the collar or the healer dies, which means they die. Same thing happens on round 2.

    Both my friend and I sigh, and I explain with auto-translate to get the collar or everyone will die. We engage again, and I'm hit with the collar. This time my friend had just about had it with the dps not getting the collar off of me and he marks it. The cast goes of for a third time and I die, followed by another wipe. We respawn and I asked my friend if we should just leave as I watch the sam and blm head back for the shortcut on respawning. The vote abandon went through.

    One would think that something targetting your healer would be something everyone should focus on, but I guess that's too hard for some people.
    Reminds me back in 4.0 when I was leveling SCH doing this on a roulette. First wipe was because the tank pulled without a care in the world that the dps were new (cutscenes). Cue wipe 1. Second wipe I tell them to break my collar or we will wipe. I even marked myself.

    ...No one, not even the tank, attacked my collar. We wiped. The DPS insisted on arguing back against me over this too. I'm like sure if you want to argue with me over doing a mechanic that kills a bound healer sure, instead of learning from your mistakes. I said my piece then left. Some other healer can deal with their shenanigans.

    I'm open to teaching but that patience quickly goes out the window if people refuse to learn.
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  5. #18715
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Main story roulette on my alt, Castrum Meridianum. I'm paladin other tank was a dark knight. He was sitting there in no stance, and doing nothing, so I take main tank, go into shield oath and start pulling. Guy comes out of nowhere and spams his aoe nonstop, like he was just trying to pull everything off of me. I go ahead and pull more after cutscene, he then goes into grit and continues to do the same, but only AFTER I have already pulled and popped flash a couple times. I just decided "screw it", and went into sword oath. During the next cutscene someone else in the party says I might as well just go sword oath, because of what the dk is doing. I say "already did, if he wants to main tank, he can have it, gives me more time to afk". The dk immediately calls me terrible, "can't hold hate". I tell him again "keep it". He immediately decides to just stand there and do nothing after that, continuing to talk s**** to pretty much everyone in the party, since they took my side here. Tells us, that he will just sit there "until kick". Needless to say, I took back the role of main tank, and he insults me because I am a "sprout", and that he "hates ms for this reason (sprouts) I just want my tombs". I tell him to not worry, I won't kick you until last boss. He backpedals and says he will just leave, "doesn't have to wait", talks a bit more s*** and leaves.

    Probably one of the most bizarre encounters I've had in awhile. Dude runs MS and thinks sprouts are a problem... What exactly do you expect to find in MS roulette?

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  6. #18716
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    Rymm's Avatar
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 90
    PF story and not a DF one, but it's still feels worth telling.

    My friend wanted to try the Snekboi Ex but hadn't had a chance to play much til the weekend. I've been playing since patch day, so I already have a few clears under my belt and I agreed to help him.

    I put together a couple of learning parties and he quickly got to the point where he'd seen enrage. So the next one I put together was a clear party to hopefully get him the kill. We fill and zone in and I started putting up markers and asked the other tank if he'd cleared it yet. He didn't answer so I waited... and waited... and finally asked him again. After another pause he realized that we weren't going til he responded, he finally said that he hadn't. I told him that was fine, but that I would keep the boss after the first tank swap. He replied with "no u wont" and pulled.

    Group reacted well and we got through the first part fine and the tank swap went smooth. As soon as curse fell off, he provoked the boss back. Without taunting, I had the boss back within two GCDs of my threat rotation. He used ultimatum and I still managed to reclaim the boss before the stack line. From that point, the group did really well (in spite of the other tank staying in Defiance and trying to fight me for threat for the first part of the second phase) until the part of the where snekboi spawns the two big adds that tether. Someone was far from the middle and baited the boss too close to an add and we lost half the raid to the overlapping AoEs. Then we didn't have enough people left alive for the line stack and wiped.

    As we respawned and rebuffed, I pointed out what went wrong and asked if anyone had questions. The tank piped up and asked "ya, why are u in tank stance?" I reminded him that I said I'd be keeping the boss and he countered with "i told u not to". I pointed out that he hadn't cleared it yet but that I had, so it made more sense for me to tank it. Everyone had accepted the ready check, so I put up a countdown and he went ahead and pulled. Fought me again on aggro for the first half of the encounter too. We made it to enrage that time and I certainly thought that a little extra dps from Deliverance might have helped some, but I didn't bother to point it out. He dropped group then anyway.

    Just... why? Is stroking your di- er... ego more important than getting a clear?
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  7. #18717
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    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Queued in the "Leap of Faith" GATE Duty Finder at the Gold Saucer just for some few extra mgp. What I didn't realize was the sheer amount of people in the gate. I appreciate having more people participating, but getting the cactaur stuff can be much tougher than usual. It took me nearly the entire 10-minute duration to get all the trophies. Oh well, I'm getting the rhythm down.
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    "Break a warrior's body, and he will thirst for vengeance. Break his spirit, and he will clamor for peace. Judge my methods distasteful if you will - but know that I seek to end this conflict, not prolong it." - Yadovv Gah, Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn

  8. #18718
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    Chelsei's Avatar
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    Chelsei Katell
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    I really want to vent about The Vault. This dungeon always gives me headaches because tanks and healers are doing it with too low gears. It always resulting with wiping at the last boss multiple times. When you play as a DPS, you can't do much more than trying your best, doing the more DPS you can, avoiding useless damage and don't waste the limit break too soon or too late.

    The HW leveling dungeons really needs to have ilvl limitation. This could really help avoiding situation like what i experienced again today (not the first time though, not the last...)

    People are lazy and I'm so sick of it
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  9. #18719
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Another day, another Rabanastre with marker trolls. One person shouldn't be able to anonymously remove all markers at the push of a button.
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  10. #18720
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    Queued in the "Leap of Faith" GATE Duty Finder at the Gold Saucer just for some few extra mgp. What I didn't realize was the sheer amount of people in the gate. I appreciate having more people participating, but getting the cactaur stuff can be much tougher than usual. It took me nearly the entire 10-minute duration to get all the trophies. Oh well, I'm getting the rhythm down.
    I took a screenshot of that to share with my friend!

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    WHM | RDM | DNC

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