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[Crushnight]

Not talking about being OP actually, but more about its system that relies on elemental strengths and weaknesses and enemy types. That's something that does not exist outside of niche content (Eureka to some extent, and Masked Carnivale). It can make Blue OP in Aurum Vale by spamming fire spells on plant enemies, but it will make Blue hit like a wet noodle on a non aspected boss, which is 100% of FFXIV endgame content. The same applies on Crowd Content abilities. You can Bind a pack of mob, but you can't silence Hello World by throwing a fish on Final Omega.

Can i just say i would love to see that happen to final Omega XD It just stares at you speechless like WTF?!

[Blueyes]

Not talking about being OP actually, but more about its system that relies on elemental strengths and weaknesses and enemy types. That's something that does not exist outside of niche content (Eureka to some extent, and Masked Carnivale). It can make Blue OP in Aurum Vale by spamming fire spells on plant enemies, but it will make Blue hit like a wet noodle on a non aspected boss, which is 100% of FFXIV endgame content. The same applies on Crowd Content abilities. You can Bind a pack of mob, but you can't silence Hello World by throwing a fish on Final Omega.

You do know that the elemental aspect of BLU's spells will be irrelevant outside of Masked Carnival, correct?

[ReiMakoto]

A "Core" Blu Rotation can be made with like 12 skills, a solution to BLU in the duty finder is require these 12 skills to be slotted, in order for BLU to be applicable for DF, then allow people to take what they want for the final 10 or so skills. "Overpowered" skills would already be naturally filtered out of lower level dungeons because BLU skills already have level requirements. Skills I'm refering to are:
1.Water Cannon
2.Bristle
3.Song of Torment
4. Any of the 130 potency aoe's (Would be filtered out of low level dungeons as the first 130 you get is cutters cry with rams voice)
5. Off Gauard
6. 30s Primal Skill
7. 60s Primal Skill
8. 90s Primal Skill
9. A 1 Second Cast time damage skill (Fire Agnon or Sharpened Knife or Flying Frenzy come to mind)
10. Peculiar Light
11. Blood Drain
12. 110/100 potency aoe(For pre cutters cry and below, e.g bomb toss, mind blast)

Having Blu have all of these slotted means they'll have a rotation for any sync'd level in a levelling roulette, or 50 roulette, then people can take others for niche situations/flavour in the remaining slots. You would be Limited to having to have these skills equipped hence: Limited Job

Obviously you'd have to get all these skills first this limited way we have. But in wishful thinking land the requirements for BLU in DF could go up as you level up, for example you can be let into the DF from level 15 onwards providing you have the skills on that core list that can be learned by level 15, then say, you unlock the dungeon after cutters cry, but you didn't learn rams voice in cutters yet, you could still use the DF, but you could only get dungeons cutters cry and below, as you only have the skills for cutters cry and below, then once you've learned it, the list of dungeons expands.

[Deceptus]

Just party with a level 70 unsynced and you'll have every skill you need from any level 50 instance.

Basically this is what any smart person would do. Find a lvl 70 who also has a BLU and trade runs. Both of you win.

[Niwashi]

So long as BLU is level capped lower that the others it will always be a disjointed mess with the MSQ, requiring players to go back and level another job in order to continue the MSQ once they hit the BLU level wall.

It'll be interesting to see whether the MSQ restriction goes away once the level caps equalize with other jobs. But prior to that, there's the new feature coming in 5.0 to let us replay through previous MSQ quests. I'd like to see BLU allowed for that New Game + replay of the MSQ quests, even if they don't do the initial MSQ run.

They already said Blue won't catch up current max level.

Actually, what they said was that it will probably take longer than one expansion to catch them up to max level, as it would be too much to get done within the time-frame of Shadowbringers.

[ThirdKeyOfSun]

I am not really sure how I feel on the situation itself. I can see both sides of the argument and I can see merit on each. I think one thing we need to consider though is that we are trying to make judgments on whether or not BLU is OP/too weak/can fit into normal parties based on the 48/49 spells we have been able to see.

As I understand it the dev team have 128 spells total already and they are making decisions based on seeing the "whole picture" whereas we are looking at about 1/3rd of it.

Maybe BLU really will be ridiculous OP later or maybe it will falter and sputter with it's upcoming additions, but we should consider that we really can't know either way in the same capacity as the dev team.

[Fyce]

Basically this is what any smart person would do. Find a lvl 70 who also has a BLU and trade runs. Both of you win.

Implying that people who like running sync and not faceroll everything are idiots? Okay.
Edit: Just to be clear, if you think that you have to rush this content and be the most effective at it, then you do you, but it doesn't mean that you are "smart". It's about enjoying what you're doing. Intelligence has nothing to do with that... It's a video game, not a working place.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Implying that people who like running sync and not faceroll everything are idiots? Okay.
Edit: Just to be clear, if you think that you have to rush this content and be the most effective at it, then you do you, but it doesn't mean that you are "smart". It's about enjoying what you're doing. Intelligence has nothing to do with that... It's a video game, not a working place.

OK, now try reading Deceptus' post again without putting words in their mouth and making assumptions.

[Videra]

Could ya'll please retain your salt for the next, like, sixteen hours? Please and thank you.

[Shougun]

Could ya'll please retain your salt for the next, like, sixteen hours? Please and thank you.

Personally I'm afraid of logging into the area the first few hours of release at least (getting stuck in a crashed area, possibly), I hope whoever makes it in posts some screenshots of all the people lol.