Suggestion: Change the Doman Mahjong Orchestrion Roll aquisition method

[worldofneil]

The only option we have to learn is create an alt character, unlock saucer, then play mahjong with it.

I did that yesterday and it took me about 4 hours to get to that point, although I think I could have probably done it in 2-3 hours if I had been more efficient about how I did it.

Access to the Gold Saucer is a level 15 quest, but you can't just start in Ul'dah and level up to 15 as the quest is also locked behind the level 15 "Envoy" main story quest. That's the one where you get airship access for the first time so you can realistically start in any city you want as that quest will give you access to Ul'dah anyway. Once you have completed the appropriate envoy quest you can just wander into the Gold Saucer and unlock Mahjong without any further issues.

And then obliterate the rating on that character

[Spiral]

I logged in just to say I also agree the requirement being based on the numerical ranking is rough, especially with coupled team players passing tiles while looking on other's screens - I've had this happen twice now in the few times I've played causing my numerical ranking to fall. If we can't get this changed, could we hear from the devs why the achievement was chosen to be based on the numerical point ranking and not something like 5th Kyu?

[Rockette]

ARGH I didn't realise everyone was pairing in on alts. No wonder I can't get anywhere. Ive been wondering how people are calling ron and tsumo on like the 2 round of the wall, I thought maybe everyone had great luck or they're playing hands I didn't think of. But then in the scoring it's like: white dragons only.

I was jumping on the novice table to practise and wondering why my luck was so much better against npcs.

F.
I don't stand a chance in rating. And honestly I don't blame anyone for doing this. :/ desperate measures and all.

[Vahlnir]

ARGH I didn't realise everyone was pairing in on alts. No wonder I can't get anywhere. Ive been wondering how people are calling ron and tsumo on like the 2 round of the wall, I thought maybe everyone had great luck or they're playing hands I didn't think of. But then in the scoring it's like: white dragons only.

I was jumping on the novice table to practise and wondering why my luck was so much better against npcs.

F.
I don't stand a chance in rating. And honestly I don't blame anyone for doing this. :/ desperate measures and all.

People will always find a way to bypass content design, sadly. This is something that they will hopefully address. It took them years to tweak TT tournaments though, so I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

[Rockette]

People will always find a way to bypass content design, sadly. This is something that they will hopefully address. It took them years to tweak TT tournaments though, so I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

I honestly don't blame them. The rating system being the achivement is sucking the fun out of playing games in pf. It's so stressful.

If I had the resource to cheat id do it too.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

I honestly don't blame them. The rating system being the achivement is sucking the fun out of playing games in pf. It's so stressful.

Agreed, it has COMPLETELY sucked the fun out of it

When the mode was announced I thought about playing it like I do on tenhou,just chilling and enjoying the game without any rating worries. However with an item like the roll now locked behind it, that changed drastically, way too harsh an item to lock up.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

BLU release is going to make this even harder now with lack of players.

[Crouchingmoose]

I just want to bump this back to the forefront. The scroll shouldn't be locked behind something like the ranking system. That's like putting an orchestrion scroll behind the feast rankings. It's really disheartening for those of us that aren't good at that type of game. I understand the desire to reward players that do play it, and the title is a good way to do that, but I'll probably forever have a hole in my orchestrion list since I doubt I'm going to be able to win this.

[Kaylie]

ive gone from 1560 to 1314 rating on losing streaks and i agree. this mess has gone too far.

i feel we should all message SE about this in mass because this garbage has become the hardest content in the game and theres no returning to the start

atleast in ex's and savages theres a respawn

[Kadrothan]

Bumping for visibility. I went slowly up to 1597 rating, then hit a nasty losing streak over a few nights. I’m now at 1495. I don’t mind the rating system but the achievement requirements can be a nightmare for orchestrion roll collectors.

Queue times have been bad on a regular basis now. Sometimes exceeding over 20 mins at times for a novice ranked game. I can't immagine the advanced being all that fun waiting on because I've seen people who rank high enough to queue advanced in the novice matches. Couple that with the time to complete a single match and you're looking at an hour for a single match.