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[Hazama999]

Yeah I don't know why they don't at least allow them access to story dungeons/trials. I know BLU's designation is that of "limited job" but it feels much too limited, in my opinion. I posted about this on another topic but I feel like people in this game really like to connect with the job they main. They like to take a job, play it and, in a sense, "own it".

How people connect with a job varies from person to person but I do feel like the MSQ forms the backbone of the game. I mean, there is so much that stems from it. I think that it should, at least, be accessible to people who want to call BLU their main. Now, I know there are people out there to whom this means very little. "If I can't raid, there's no point in maining it." or "if I can't do X or Y content, there's no point in maining it." and those are all valid stances to have. It's just that I see the MSQ as a sort of "basic right" that you oughta at least have access to if you really want to call it your main job. Personally, I would extend this freedom to dungeons, trials, and maybe normal mode raids. I judge these things to be inoffensive to those whose main concern is the bleeding edge of difficult content.

That said, I feel like this fundamentally goes against what seems to be a very deliberate decision to make BLU more of a side-content activity rather than a job unto itself. I think their idea is for us to perhaps not even see it as a job... which, understandably, clashes with people's desire to see it as such and perhaps even main it.

[SDaemon]

Yeah I don't know why they don't at least allow them access to story dungeons/trials. I know BLU's designation is that of "limited job" but it feels much too limited, in my opinion. I posted about this on another topic but I feel like people in this game really like to connect with the job they main. They like to take a job, play it and, in a sense, "own it".

How people connect with a job varies from person to person but I do feel like the MSQ forms the backbone of the game. I mean, there is so much that stems from it. I think that it should, at least, be accessible to people who want to call BLU their main. Now, I know there are people out there to whom this means very little. "If I can't raid, there's no point in maining it." or "if I can't do X or Y content, there's no point in maining it." and those are all valid stances to have. It's just that I see the MSQ as a sort of "basic right" that you oughta at least have access to if you really want to call it your main job. Personally, I would extend this freedom to dungeons, trials, and maybe normal mode raids. I judge these things to be inoffensive to those whose main concern is the bleeding edge of difficult content.

That said, I feel like this fundamentally goes against what seems to be a very deliberate decision to make BLU more of a side-content activity rather than a job unto itself. I think their idea is for us to perhaps not even see it as a job... which, understandably, clashes with people's desire to see it as such and perhaps even main it.

So long as BLU is level capped lower that the others it will always be a disjointed mess with the MSQ, requiring players to go back and level another job in order to continue the MSQ once they hit the BLU level wall. That issue is just going to compound to a larger gap in levels as time goes on. How is it really "maining" when you play it initially from the 2.1 story and then have to stop playing it to continue on, only to repeat that again and again while also having to periodically level another "main" in order to see the story further? If playing a job through the MSQ is the backbone of the game, BLU is a horribly broken backbone in that regard.

[redcurrant18]

So? If people want to do it just let them as long as they meet the level requirements for the quest. People who main multiple classes also struggle with this too, since for Stormblood I took the time to first level Red Mage to 60 for Ala Migho quests and then had to do the same for Samurai for quests in the east. That's just how I wanted to play through the main story. It's not your place to police how other people want to enjoy the main quest.

[SDaemon]

So? If people want to do it just let them as long as they meet the level requirements for the quest. People who main multiple classes also struggle with this too, since for Stormblood I took the time to first level Red Mage to 60 for Ala Migho quests and then had to do the same for Samurai for quests in the east. That's just how I wanted to play through the main story. It's not your place to police how other people want to enjoy the main quest.

I'm not policing anything....

My point still remains that it seems very off putting, daunting even, to let someone play through the mains story quest to 50 as a separate job, let them play BLU for 10 levels [When BLU gets bumped to 60 anyway, at present they won't even be able to continue much at all] and then require them have to go back and level another job just to continue with the MSQ for another 20 levels. I can legitimately see a great number of people being upset about that. That issue will continue to compound, requiring them to go back and level up even further each time. Any new player who wants to "main" BLU through the MSQ is going to have an increasingly huge hurdle just to continue playing the MSQ pass the point BLU's level caps out, something that any other job once unlocked doesn't have as they can simply continue playing through. You may not have an issue with that and that is fine, but it still is a very real issue.

Also just to point out, you personally made the choice to swap from RDM to SAM to continue with the story. A person playing BLU through the MSQ would have no choice. They must change to a different job in order to continue. The game would give them no other option. They would either have to park their BLU there [Story wise] and not play the MSQ any further till BLU's level is increased or go back and level another job to continue on.

[Elkanah]

Wasn't Dark Knight a DPS in FFXI?
I also heard NIN was a Evasive tank.

DRK was a DPS originally in FFXI, that is correct. DRK also had major accuracy issues, which is why you'd pile on the accuracy for things like Guillotine (a 4 hit weaponskill) + other equipment swaps.
NIN was SUPPOSED to be a DPS, but the community decided to turn it into a tank.
However, the devs put a cap on NIN after the nin hit 55, due to the mobs being double or triple hit adds. They also made boss type monsters able to go through their Utsusemi shadow cast spells, making them irrelevant tanks.
The only TRUE tank in FFXI was PLD. WAR and NIN were somewhat temporary till those time periods of 50-55+ and beyond.

[Elkanah]

The three main restrictions I really want them to lift are story, squadron command missions and roulettes in a full pre-made party.

Squadron missions, I'd honestly want the most. If we CANNOT use them in duties, I'd at least like to go in with a NPC party. Unless the trust system is gonna be built with the job in mind, assuming changes are being made pre 5.0 to make ready for the possible design. It seems odd that the game will restrict them access to all content, except when you need to have a pre-made to go in and basically tackle the boss for a certain spell you can't solo.

[SDaemon]

Squadron missions, I'd honestly want the most. If we CANNOT use them in duties, I'd at least like to go in with a NPC party. Unless the trust system is gonna be built with the job in mind, assuming changes are being made pre 5.0 to make ready for the possible design. It seems odd that the game will restrict them access to all content, except when you need to have a pre-made to go in and basically tackle the boss for a certain spell you can't solo.

I would guess SE's reasoning is because Squadron can level up and do level 60 content atm whereas BLU is stuck at 50. If so, I'd hope they'd open it up when the BLU level cap is increased, assuming the Squadron cap doesn't go up at the same time.

[Hazama999]

Well, the level cap is obviously one of the restrictions I'm referring to. If you wanted to do the story with it, they'd have to allow BLU to reach the very end of it, that is, be allowed to reach level 80.

[Crushnight]

"Not like they completely dismiss" is not the same as "They will focus on party play". It means that the party play will be there, will get something here or there, but will not be the focus.

I am sorry to say but 25 of blu's abilities are locked behind instanced content that needs a party so there will need to have some decent abilities to use in a group setting i think the devs put more effort to allow blu to not be completely unhinged(either good or bad) in a party settng this time around though giving them 3 kill themselves abilities sounds fun XD

[kikix12]

I am sorry to say but 25 of blu's abilities are locked behind instanced content that needs a party so there will need to have some decent abilities to use in a group setting i think the devs put more effort to allow blu to not be completely unhinged(either good or bad) in a party settng this time around though giving them 3 kill themselves abilities sounds fun XD

There's nothing to be sorry about there. I'm not against party with Blue Mage.

In fact, the opposite is true. I always considered this an experiment and kept saying that once it settles in, is tested and such, there could be skills selected for "fixed" runs (one of those skills schemes being fixed "duty finder" one) and Blue Mage could be allowed into all content provided they have all the skills, while nothing would change for premade parties, overworld etc.


Them supporting party play in any way does support that possibility, rather than deny it.