BLU for Duty Finder and Raids! Show your support!

[NessaWyvern]

I am wondering if it could be a temporary thing, they could later implement something where BLU must have X abilities before they can enter a raid/DF, and restrict some abilities that might be too powerful while in DF and Raids.

I am curious as to how BLU would manage treasure maps and Uznair, would they be allowed to join those?

EDIT: I forgot they had that level cap :/ Might be useful to bring a BLU along anyway if they can use Death on some of the mobs.

[Luxyn]

"Wouldn't that just defeat the purpose of the skills?" No? I don't recall being able to cast death/doom on aeons in FFX and it works like that in other FF games, the skills' purpose is perfectly usable on susceptible enemies but to avoid too easy fights bosses and etc are often immune to skills that would make it too easy. It's a far, FAR better alternative to "Well how about you just can't fight them as Blue Mage at all!" Come on, you can't say that just making them immune to the OP skills isn't a better option.

[Curcio]

Nothing they said on the stream convinced me that Blue Mage is not fit for the Duty Finder. I've had the unfortunate luck to be paired with Tanks and Healers who had access to all their skills, but simply couldn't play the Job at all. And I've known Players who lacked certain skills, yet played the job better than most randoms I encountered.

And if certain skills are simply broken, make the bosses immune to them.

This. So much this.

There are ways to balance things. You should be allowed to kick Blue Mages from your group who don't learn all of the abilities.

Or they could make it like a normal job and have them learn spells as they level. Make them classic BLU spells (many of which are already in XIV). As "disappointing" as it might be not to be able to "learn" them out in the field, it's infinitely LESS disappointing then what we currently have: A class capped at level 50 that can't do any relevant content in the game.

[Lufir]

I am wondering if it could be a temporary thing, they could later implement something where BLU must have X abilities before they can enter a raid/DF, and restrict some abilities that might be too powerful while in DF and Raids.

I am curious as to how BLU would manage treasure maps and Uznair, would they be allowed to join those?

My understanding is that BLU will be allowed anything that doesn't use matchmaking with other players via duty finder. So, yes maps would be ok. The only issue with that is the level cap. We really need more information on how long will we need to wait to catch up with the proper level cap. Deep dungeon, roulettes, alliance raids, normal raids, are locked out. But, you can undersize party any duty because it is premade and you aren't matchmaking with anyone.

[Luxyn]

Tell that to the SAMs who have been locked out of PFs, and thats a job balanced for raiding. It's a poor excuse to give, but not an incorrect one, and that's before we talk about a job that would have white wind, mighty guard, and lots of other skills (more than any other job by far) to choose from. BLU would immediately be locked from parties or become mandatory, and that's why we can't have nice things

I will tell that to the SAMs who are locked out of PFs, because exactly, it already happens. That was my exact point. So since it already happens, who cares? It won't always happen, them just straight up locking us out of the content is worse.

[Crysten]

"BLU is designed as a solo job."

"You learn some of your skills from primals."

"You need to get into a pre-made group to access the trials to learn these moves."

Anyone else getting mixed messages, or think these guys are just making this stuff up as they go?

[Jybril]

BLU doesn't work for party content, don't pretend that it does. What we would get is this, or a watered-down imitation of BLU, which would generate backlash regardless. This is BLU exactly as BLU should be, and putting it in a party scenario wouldn't work because it can't be balanced against other jobs. This is how the backlash looks:

Community: "We are bored of the predictable formula, give us something we have never seen before"

Devs: "Here is a brand new concept for how jobs are played, and here is BLU exactly as it is in other games"

Community: "Nooo, we never asked for that"

To be fair...They can make BLU any way they want it to be.
It's their game. It doesn't have to be 100% like it was in other games.
Summoner is barely a summoner like other games, like, at all.
Wasn't Dark Knight a DPS in FFXI?
I also heard NIN was a Evasive tank.
I don't like BLU or care for it to be added in the game I'm just saying
it doesn't have to be like other games.

[Senn]

They could always give blue mage two sets of skills.
The first set would be normal skills like every other class, and can be used in raids and stuff.
The second set of skills are the skills you learn from monsters, and can be used elsewhere.

[Luxyn]

I guess we should make SAM a limited job too since it already gets locked out by people in PFs! Because that's the logic I'm hearing. See how absurd of an idea that is? Because that is what is actually happening with BLU. /eyeroll

[AlphaSonic]

Oh they are scared that Death is going to kill most of the raid bosses? It's not like Repose/Sleep/Fluid Aura work on them either. Or it's not like Gravity halves the enemy HP. No excuses SE, make it work for duty and relevant content.