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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Basically, you want SE hand it to you on a silver plate so you can say “see, another dying content”?
    It still takes a lot of effort to rank up. If you get third or fourth place you never make any progress towards it due to LOSING points, but if you manage first or second you make progress towards ranking up.
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    Last edited by Bacent; 01-14-2019 at 06:43 AM. Reason: Typo and making something a bit more clear.
    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Much like pvp, there needs to be a floor you can't go below.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  3. #23
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    Are there any achievements other than Ranked Feast where your progress can regress?
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    Hi I'm a collector, get things handed to me for free please!
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    Jets Down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    Are there any achievements other than Ranked Feast where your progress can regress?
    yes PotD and HoH 1 mistake or god forbid a single dc when solo goodbye however many floors you tried gotta restart and they have titles like Mahjong.

    Personally i'd rather have the orchestrion roll be complete x challenges like the twintania is for LoV can't get deepeye though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    yes PotD and HoH 1 mistake or god forbid a single dc when solo goodbye however many floors you tried gotta restart and they have titles like Mahjong.

    Personally i'd rather have the orchestrion roll be complete x challenges like the twintania is for LoV can't get deepeye though
    In HoH or PoTD you always start from 0 or 30/50 depending, you can never go back beyond that.

    NOT the case in Mahjong, you start from 1500 and can go backward and a hefty amount of luck is involved. Titles for rating is fine, but a music roll is a very odd choice.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevok_Thordin View Post
    In HoH or PoTD you always start from 0 or 30/50 depending, you can never go back beyond that.

    NOT the case in Mahjong, you start from 1500 and can go backward and a hefty amount of luck is involved. Titles for rating is fine, but a music roll is a very odd choice.
    the person asked if their are any achievements you can regress on. dc on floor 134 solo and then having to restart at floor 1 is regressing your progress on it now with ranked pvp you always regress a few tiers and have to work up from there some people going back to untiered (basically 0) for Mahjong the goalpost starts at 1500 but you could regress to 0 never below 0
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    the person asked if their are any achievements you can regress on. dc on floor 134 solo and then having to restart at floor 1 is regressing your progress on it now with ranked pvp you always regress a few tiers and have to work up from there some people going back to untiered (basically 0) for Mahjong the goalpost starts at 1500 but you could regress to 0 never below 0
    You'd have to get 52 first place wins in a row if you wanted to get back around your 1500 score in Mahjong. Or 167 games in a row to get back to around 1500 if you were managing to get second place again and again.

    It's pretty....''''interesting'''' to let people backpedal on something that's obviously a mini-game time sink, one that a majority of people are seeming to have an issue on, but people keep trying to compare it to other activities, which doesn't feel fair. You can get through a single floor set of HoH/PoTD in less time than it usually takes for ONE game of mahjong, and you'd come out of it with some form of loot at the bare minimum, while with Mahjong if you're one of the two unlucky people to lose, you're all the worse for it.
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

  9. #29
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    I think ranking rather than rating would be a better achievement. Getting to 1st kyu would still be a considerable challenge and a big grind but it wouldn't be the same 1 step forward 5 step backwards that rating is.
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  10. #30
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacent View Post
    It still takes a lot of effort to rank up. If you get third or fourth place you never make any progress towards it due to LOSING points, but if you manage first or second you make progress towards ranking up.
    Imo, 3rd should give a small score (maybe have a minimum-maximum between 1st, 2nd and 3rd place) to rank up with while 4 gives nothing...but doesn't lead to a rating loss. To me, that would be fair. It would probably give more people incentive to keep playing if their progress isn't reverted. It might hit a brick wall for a time, but that's better than losing progress.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-14-2019 at 08:37 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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