can they stop genderlocking outfits that are easily neutral?

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I have, extensively, but in 98% of the runs I've done everyone is dressed in reasonable attire. The other 2% was minor joke attire. If they start letting everyone wear whatever they want then those numbers would be reversed.

You don't get to dictate what other players can or can't wear.

[DevonEllwood]

I'm trying to figure this out. Since the game is based in a medieval ish era, where males and females had designated clothing to wear. So females wearing suits, trousers, and tuxedos that are male clothing is okay, but a guy wearing a dress is not? That really doesn't make sense to me.

I really don't care what people put on their video game avatars because it doesn't affect my gameplay.

[Nyvara]

The difference between me wearing a fedora and men in drag is a fedora is a male garment while dresses and skirts are not. Nice job with the personal attack though.

I pointed out that this game takes place in a fictional medieval setting because that is the fundamental setting of the world. They are currently going through the industrialization era with Garlean Empire and interacting with other nations so fashion will be influenced, but you know what you still don't see? Men in drag.

Ehhh Anyone that has watched any anime knows that cross dressing is a thing and the FF franchise is very anime related. Just because you think someone is a girl doesn't mean they are. For example my fave character in the Naruto series Haku who Naruto thought was a really cute girl! For all we know Raya-O-Senna is really a boy.

Do I feel that the bunny girl outfit looks silly on guys? yes! Do I have the right to tell them what they can or can not wear? No!

Do as ye will and harm none.

I used to tank in a variant of this outfit (different boots and upgraded to a much cuter necklace) Am I like, breaking the time line by doing my best job cross dressing and not wearing armor while I tank????

Oh god, am I the reason SB's story wasn't as well received as HW!? WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!

He's really cute!

[Iscah]

I have, extensively, but in 98% of the runs I've done everyone is dressed in reasonable attire. The other 2% was minor joke attire. If they start letting everyone wear whatever they want then those numbers would be reversed.

If you're serious about this, I think you're massively mis-estimating why people are dressing the way they are, and what would cause them to change.

If someone wants to dress up in joke attire, they're not going to think "oh, I can't make my male Roegadyn wear the wedding dress? I'll just have to give up and wear boring armour then." They'll be wearing novelty costumes or floral hats or all the pink dye they can throw at it. If all gear was unlocked, they would have a slightly larger pool of deliberately-awful costumes to draw from.

If someone currently dresses their character in sensible, setting-appropriate clothing, they're not going to abandon it for ridiculous outfits just because they can - because they had access to plenty of them already, and chose not to wear them. (If they make any change, they may now be wearing no-longer-"arbitrarily gendered" pieces like the Expeditioners' tops, neither of which would look out of place on the other gender.)

[InkstainedGwyn]

"I don't want guys to dress in a way I don't approve of." You can argue "immersion" and "history" (fyi, you really have an insulated sense of "history" if you think that your version of "menswear/womenswear" was always as it is now) all you want, but in the end, it's pretty clear no matter how much you want to hide it what your real reasoning is, so you should just say it outright. It'll save the arguments.

[Joven]

"I don't want guys to dress in a way I don't approve of." You can argue "immersion" and "history" (fyi, you really have an insulated sense of "history" if you think that your version of "menswear/womenswear" was always as it is now) all you want, but in the end, it's pretty clear no matter how much you want to hide it what your real reasoning is, so you should just say it outright. It'll save the arguments.

I knew someone would bring this up. In the real world I couldn't care less what you choose to wear so long as you aren't hurting others or committing any illegal activities. However, this is a fictional work with its own clear cut rules as to what clothing it defines as masculine and what it defines as feminine. All I'm trying to do is point that out. But good job in assuming you know EXACTLY how I feel about a given topic because you know me SO well from a few posts.

[Rokke]

The fact that it's from the Scions as a sort of uniform makes it part of the dress code. I didn't design the aesthetics of it, I just liked the way it looked. It's similar in style to Alphinaud, Alisaie and Y'shtola's outfits if I hadn't dyed it, yet no-one seems to think their attire is immersion ruining.

The Scion’s gear looks fantasy enough to be costumes- long gloves, puffy sleeves, asymmetrical long coats, elaborate thigh boots, weird piping designs etc. The Scion Adventurer set for both genders are clothes you could find at early 2000's Hot Topic. I complained about them in the forums way back when they were released because the art team glued a few metal details to street clothes and called it a day when I wanted to look like fantasy character lol

[Joven]

You can't really play the immersion card anymore. That went out the window a long time ago. If immersion was a priority mounts like the Goobue, Behemoth and other non-winged animals wouldn't be able to fly. If you point the finger at magic, then magically a man could glam his manly gear to look like a woman's gear. You could also magically make yourself fly. Immersion only works if the rules for the world are never broken and strictly followed by the devs, story writers and the players themselves. It's hard to be immersed in a "time period" when you've got Bikinis, Chocobo heads, and modern street clothes in a "old world fantasy" game.

The rules for the world haven't been broken with wingless mounts being able to fly because wind magic is a thing in this world. It's what they use to explain how the islands stay afloat in the Sea of Clouds: large amounts of wind aspected aether imbedded in the rock. So as a rule, yes you COULD use magic to make yourself fly, if that was something they felt like adding at some point.

As for the glamours: they're not really canon /relevant to the world at large. Unless it's a specific set of gear given to you for a specifc purpose, i.e the weathered tunic and trousers you get from Thancred to catch whoever was kidnapping people in Drybone, then none of the NPCs remark about what you're wearing as it has no bearing on the story and exist solely as fanservice.

[Joven]

The Scion’s gear looks fantasy enough to be costumes- long gloves, puffy sleeves, asymmetrical long coats, elaborate thigh boots, weird piping designs etc. The Scion Adventurer set for both genders are clothes you could find at early 2000's Hot Topic. I complained about them in the forums way back when they were released because the art team glued a few metal details to street clothes and called it a day when I wanted to look like fantasy character lol

I get what you're saying and yet you still tried to call me out for it because I liked the design and decided to use it?

[Emstidor]

They're calling you out because it's a hypocritical stance. Your choice of headwear wasn't considered conventional until the late 1800s/early 1900s, so it absolutely doesn't mesh with whatever argument you're making about gear not fitting a "fictional medieval" setting.