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  1. #18681
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    Strayn's Avatar
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    Strayn Taslot
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 70

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    I've been playing since last year and this is the first time I've ever been vote kicked from a dungeon.
    Me(pal), Whm, Brd and Rdm. So we queue into the new 4man with expert and at first it's fine, except this Rdm starts pulling ahead of me while I'm trying to get some settings worked out on my keyboard. At first it wasn't very obnoxious but then he was clearly trying to get ahead of me every pull and pull first. So I just let him eat a death and figured that'd be enough.
    We're before last boss and this Rdm will not stop pulling stuff and finally gets snippy at me in chat with "wtb tank". At which point I notice the Rdm and Brd have the same last name. And oh yeah there it is, the dungeon couple white knight kick. If your significant other is such a delicate flower that they immediately become socially toxic the second they can't play their way, you got issues.
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  2. #18682
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    Adrestia's Avatar
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    Adrestia Skyborn
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AxHell View Post
    That is exactly what happened though. She used Aspected Benefic under Diurnal Sect to eat the tank buster. Maybe I should have been more precised but hey that's what happened.
    Okay, used Aspected Benefic with Diurnal active makes a lot more sense in the story. Saying “using Diurnal Sect” just made it sound like you were implying it was some kind of cooldown. But yes, as you clearly experienced, a regen doesn’t help with a one-shot.
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  3. #18683
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    Pepsi_Plunge's Avatar
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    Pepsi Plunge
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    Lich
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I still don't get it. O8 is Kefka, isn't it? When did Kefka started to use those mechanics? More likely we are talking about O9, Chaos?
    And yes, while she can't change from Diurnal Sect to Nocturnal Sect during the fight, it probably wouldn't be a good idea anyway to do this in Nocturnal Sect too.
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 01-11-2019 at 07:14 AM.

  4. #18684
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    A pleasant story Tuesday night. I queued in to the Ivalice raid. I wouldn't say things went 'smoothly' but we kept making progress and cleared through it, even if thunder god took several attempts, and we cleared the final boss with 8 minutes left.
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  5. #18685
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    Rosentretter's Avatar
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    Theodore Rosentretter
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Context: The Keeper of the Lake, me healing, helping my bf level up his Ninja. A new WAR, and new DRG. When people are new I give explanations, but first thing the tank did wrong was running the hell away without Protect. After giving him said buff, the guy wasn't using any of his cooldowns. We told him several times to do so, and in the meantime the DRG kept disconnecting. 2nd boss, the tank killed us all facing every Flamethrow and aoe to us and then when asked if he knew how to use his cooldowns, he said "I used them all in that boss silly, when you all died". I reply "well, you killed us all, facing everything to us". Then he has the guts to tell me "heal me better, or leave". I checked his search info, and judging by the lvl, he was of course a jump potion. The rest of the dungeon was awful, even with the sorry SAM we got in replacement of that DRG.

    I swear, jump potions are a huge mistake. New players who use them have absolutely no clue what the hell are they doing. Some of them don't even know what a stack mark is... it's frustrating. Most of these new players don't even do the Hall of the Novice (which also screams for a HUGE revamp), they don't check any guide, they just run towards everything thinking they are invincible, thinking there's no mechanics to follow.

    And now we are going to get SB jump potions... great...

    Jump potions for new players shouldn't have been allowed. Maybe for those players who already have another character and want to jump their alts, but already having knowledge of the game. Stormblood's rotations and mechanics need more attention and effort, otherwise it's just frustrating to play with these people. If SE is planning to keep with this, they should at least lock them behind some requirements. "It's for the new players that are joining the game and want to play with friends straight in the current content"... This is just a sabotage to the rest of people who actually went through the whole game and learned how to play it.
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    Last edited by Rosentretter; 01-11-2019 at 11:55 AM.

  6. #18686
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosentretter View Post
    I swear, jump potions are a huge mistake. New players who use them have absolutely no clue what the hell are they doing. Some of them don't even know what a stack mark is... it's frustrating.
    I disagree on this, I don't wanna turn this into a debate off topic but I have friends from other games and other MMOs that just don't have the time to do the story, specially the 100 fetch quests in ARR > HW story and they just wanna enjoy the game for the gameplay. My friends came from other MMOs I know that people who jump potion never played an MMO before or don't even bother reading their job actions and such it can't be helped, it's a double edged sword since I think jump potions are great for my friends and others who don't want to do hours of story but newbies who don't know a thing about their class is usually what people encounter more.

    I can see the frustration though and that does suck when you have someone who jump potions and just sucks flat out and doesn't know a thing that's bad but I ran an Antitower with a jump potion tank who was really decent, asked for advice, asked if he was doing alright, even had his BLM friend who jump potioned and asked for advice. For all the bad there is good it just sucks when we see the negatives of jump potions vs the people who actually want to learn and play the game.
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  7. #18687
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    Kleeya's Avatar
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    Kleeya White
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Yesterday in the burn, i did have the longest final boss fight i have seen. We begin the fight and suddenly the healer and me (rdm) died in one hit. All was going very well before that, so i didn't expect the tank to turn the boss towards the group, and we got badly cleaved. The last dps alive was a SMN and so begin a rez feast with the tank bitting the dust shortly after because of no healing, the boss targeting someone else, the two mages and the healer without any mana left once the SMN died as well and everyone getting deaths debuffs. In the end we still did beat it but it was the first time i did see the dive and dragon heads mechanics two time each.

    Would have been faster to wipe at the beginning to go retry it with full mana, but nobody seems like wanting to give up because of one little tanking mistake in the first seconds. Since there was no problem before that, maybe the tank did get shortly distracted or something.
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  8. #18688
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kleeya View Post
    Yesterday in the burn, i did have the longest final boss fight i have seen. We begin the fight and suddenly the healer and me (rdm) died in one hit. All was going very well before that, so i didn't expect the tank to turn the boss towards the group, and we got badly cleaved. The last dps alive was a SMN and so begin a rez feast with the tank bitting the dust shortly after because of no healing, the boss targeting someone else, the two mages and the healer without any mana left once the SMN died as well and everyone getting deaths debuffs. In the end we still did beat it but it was the first time i did see the dive and dragon heads mechanics two time each.

    Would have been faster to wipe at the beginning to go retry it with full mana, but nobody seems like wanting to give up because of one little tanking mistake in the first seconds. Since there was no problem before that, maybe the tank did get shortly distracted or something.
    I had a very similar run yesterday as well.
    I think the healer was me (AST)?
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    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

  9. #18689
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    TalithaSolarien's Avatar
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
    I disagree on this, I don't wanna turn this into a debate off topic but I have friends from other games and other MMOs that just don't have the time to do the story, specially the 100 fetch quests in ARR > HW story and they just wanna enjoy the game for the gameplay. My friends came from other MMOs I know that people who jump potion never played an MMO before or don't even bother reading their job actions and such it can't be helped, it's a double edged sword since I think jump potions are great for my friends and others who don't want to do hours of story but newbies who don't know a thing about their class is usually what people encounter more.

    I can see the frustration though and that does suck when you have someone who jump potions and just sucks flat out and doesn't know a thing that's bad but I ran an Antitower with a jump potion tank who was really decent, asked for advice, asked if he was doing alright, even had his BLM friend who jump potioned and asked for advice. For all the bad there is good it just sucks when we see the negatives of jump potions vs the people who actually want to learn and play the game.
    There are two kind of jump potions: story and job.
    While I kinda can understand people using story jump pots (esp. for the ARR post-2.0 part) using job pots is a very idea IMHO. Even for a dps running roulettes and dungeons it doesn't take too long to level up and you actually learn how your class works and ticks along the way, an experience you won't get with a job jump pot. I would never use such a pot.
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  10. #18690
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    Laphael's Avatar
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    Laphael Lanelar
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Strayn View Post
    I've been playing since last year and this is the first time I've ever been vote kicked from a dungeon.
    Me(pal), Whm, Brd and Rdm. So we queue into the new 4man with expert and at first it's fine, except this Rdm starts pulling ahead of me while I'm trying to get some settings worked out on my keyboard. At first it wasn't very obnoxious but then he was clearly trying to get ahead of me every pull and pull first. So I just let him eat a death and figured that'd be enough.
    We're before last boss and this Rdm will not stop pulling stuff and finally gets snippy at me in chat with "wtb tank". At which point I notice the Rdm and Brd have the same last name. And oh yeah there it is, the dungeon couple white knight kick. If your significant other is such a delicate flower that they immediately become socially toxic the second they can't play their way, you got issues.
    Just one question:
    Why do you as a tank with instant invites have to do keyboard settings inside the dungeon?
    The tank not moving forward is the same lvl of annoyance as a dps pulling.
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