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    Joven's Avatar
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    Quote Originally Posted by millktea View Post
    the game allows males to wear the bunny outfit, so why are the new gold saucer outfits genderlocked? why is the smock male only when it's already gender neutral anyway? they even have a female version on the npcs. the gown is hideous.

    can they stop genderlocking outfits? especially ones that are easily neutral. the fact that men can wear the bunny outfit makes this very lazy and outdated...
    There's this little thing called immersion. XIV takes place in a time when men dressed like men and women dressed like women. There were exceptions, but it wasn't the norm. If they start letting everybody wear whatever they want then they might as well just give up on trying to tell a serious story. If there's a giant muscular roe running point wearing a wedding dress and heels during a dungeon then how are you expected to take the encounter seriously?

    I get that this a game meant for entertainment purposes so concessions can be made (i.e the bunny suit and other crazier sets), but at the same time they're still trying tell a specific story in a specific setting so things need to be a specific way.
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    XIV takes place in a time when men dressed like men and women dressed like women.
    'In a time'... this is fiction, not reality, first of all, and secondly, have you seen some of the gear in the game? The Flames uniform for their elite mages is literally a sexy pink skirt that shows off your hips, and the only NPC I can think of who wears it is male. Standards for what is masculine or feminine are neither timeless, nor universal.

    Furthermore, if you want to talk about immersion...If my level 70 master weaver can't figure out a way to equip a dress (despite it fitting femroes just fine, when they are both taller and more muscular than him), then that is detrimental to my immersion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    There's this little thing called immersion. XIV takes place in a time when men dressed like men and women dressed like women. There were exceptions, but it wasn't the norm. If they start letting everybody wear whatever they want then they might as well just give up on trying to tell a serious story. If there's a giant muscular roe running point wearing a wedding dress and heels during a dungeon then how are you expected to take the encounter seriously?

    I get that this a game meant for entertainment purposes so concessions can be made (i.e the bunny suit and other crazier sets), but at the same time they're still trying tell a specific story in a specific setting so things need to be a specific way.
    Dude have you seen coeurl underwear us Roes wear? That's true immersion right there. I like some men in skirts too, really gets me immersed in the experience. You want the Warrior of Light charging into battle with his/her unimmersive boring armor? I say no! Catboys in dresses, Roes in skirts, au'ra woman in Tuxedos, it's all immersive!

    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Any good fiction is grounded in reality, so the time period this game takes place in is a fictional medieval setting. That's why you have knights and castles and such. Thereby it would stand to reason that the dress code would be that of that time period i.e armor, tunics, robes, etc.

    Your desire to dress your character in drag has nothing to do with the setting of the world so ultimately if your version of 'immersion' is broken by that, then that's on you.
    I don't see how Mr Fedora can complain about men in drag in a "fictional medieval setting" though =3
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    Last edited by ThunderGodThor; 01-11-2019 at 03:01 PM. Reason: more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    If there's a giant muscular roe running point wearing a wedding dress and heels during a dungeon then how are you expected to take the encounter seriously?
    ...Have you never used duty finder before?
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    Haxaan Shivar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    There's this little thing called immersion. XIV takes place in a time when men dressed like men and women dressed like women. There were exceptions, but it wasn't the norm. If they start letting everybody wear whatever they want then they might as well just give up on trying to tell a serious story. If there's a giant muscular roe running point wearing a wedding dress and heels during a dungeon then how are you expected to take the encounter seriously?

    I get that this a game meant for entertainment purposes so concessions can be made (i.e the bunny suit and other crazier sets), but at the same time they're still trying tell a specific story in a specific setting so things need to be a specific way.
    You can't really play the immersion card anymore. That went out the window a long time ago. If immersion was a priority mounts like the Goobue, Behemoth and other non-winged animals wouldn't be able to fly. If you point the finger at magic, then magically a man could glam his manly gear to look like a woman's gear. You could also magically make yourself fly. Immersion only works if the rules for the world are never broken and strictly followed by the devs, story writers and the players themselves. It's hard to be immersed in a "time period" when you've got Bikinis, Chocobo heads, and modern street clothes in a "old world fantasy" game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    There's this little thing called immersion. XIV takes place in a time when men dressed like men and women dressed like women. There were exceptions, but it wasn't the norm. If they start letting everybody wear whatever they want then they might as well just give up on trying to tell a serious story. If there's a giant muscular roe running point wearing a wedding dress and heels during a dungeon then how are you expected to take the encounter seriously?

    I get that this a game meant for entertainment purposes so concessions can be made (i.e the bunny suit and other crazier sets), but at the same time they're still trying tell a specific story in a specific setting so things need to be a specific way.


    I used to tank in a variant of this outfit (different boots and upgraded to a much cuter necklace) Am I like, breaking the time line by doing my best job cross dressing and not wearing armor while I tank????

    Oh god, am I the reason SB's story wasn't as well received as HW!? WHAT HAVE I DONE!?!
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