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    I don't know why people think Feol Viera are so small they'd be considered a short race like lalafell or moogle. It really annoys me. The only thing about them that is mentioned to be shorter than the average viera is their ears. Their sprites in revenant wings are the same size as other viera, and smaller short races like the Moogles from Ivalice and Cait/Cu Sith have clearly smaller sprites.

    Viera have never been tiny/short other than younger viera and even they are still taller than a shorter Hume like Vaan/Penelo.

    I'm fine if they make another short race, but it reaaaaally bothers me that people are trying to pinhole viera into short.

    They're not!!!

    And honestly I think this is a little skewed too.

    Male Au Ra, Femroe and Male Roe I'd consider the tallest of the tall, the rest I would consider average.

    It's silly to say race diversity is on the line. More people will want to play average height characters than anything, and I imagine Fran will mark the taller side of Viera, my Femroe is still a full head taller than her.

    Viera will probably range from Midlander to Elezen heights.

    They mentioned there will be Dwarves in the 5.0 areas, I'm intrigued by how they're gonna do that cause I've always imagined Lala to be the dwarfs of Hydaelyn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    They mentioned there will be Dwarves in the 5.0 areas, I'm intrigued by how they're gonna do that cause I've always imagined Lala to be the dwarfs of Hydaelyn.
    I feel Lalafell's are closer to being gnomes than dwarfs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    They mentioned there will be Dwarves in the 5.0 areas, I'm intrigued by how they're gonna do that cause I've always imagined Lala to be the dwarfs of Hydaelyn.


    Rally-ho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    I don't know why people think Feol Viera are so small they'd be considered a short race like lalafell or moogle. It really annoys me. The only thing about them that is mentioned to be shorter than the average viera is their ears. Their sprites in revenant wings are the same size as other viera, and smaller short races like the Moogles from Ivalice and Cait/Cu Sith have clearly smaller sprites.

    Viera have never been tiny/short other than younger viera and even they are still taller than a shorter Hume like Vaan/Penelo.

    I'm fine if they make another short race, but it reaaaaally bothers me that people are trying to pinhole viera into short.

    They're not!!!

    And honestly I think this is a little skewed too.

    Male Au Ra, Femroe and Male Roe I'd consider the tallest of the tall, the rest I would consider average.

    It's silly to say race diversity is on the line. More people will want to play average height characters than anything, and I imagine Fran will mark the taller side of Viera, my Femroe is still a full head taller than her.

    Viera will probably range from Midlander to Elezen heights.

    They mentioned there will be Dwarves in the 5.0 areas, I'm intrigued by how they're gonna do that cause I've always imagined Lala to be the dwarfs of Hydaelyn.
    Thank you, glad to see i'm not the only one who feels this way.

    If another small race is absolutely needed, might aswell go for a fantasy staple.

    (Everquest Next Unused Dwarf race)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Thank you, glad to see i'm not the only one who feels this way.

    If another small race is absolutely needed, might aswell go for a fantasy staple.

    (Everquest Next Unused Dwarf race)

    I really really hope not. In fact, even if FF did incorporate Dwarves, it wouldn't be at all like what western gamers are accustomed to. The only time they've ever appeared in FF lore, they looked like this.

    IMO that only fits as a background race like the Bangaa, Amal'jaa, etc. FF does not do dwarves of Moria type BS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    I really really hope not. In fact, even if FF did incorporate Dwarves, it wouldn't be at all like what western gamers are accustomed to. The only time they've ever appeared in FF lore, they looked like this.

    IMO that only fits as a background race like the Bangaa, Amal'jaa, etc. FF does not do dwarves of Moria type BS.
    FFIV would like a word with you.

    This is Luca, from FFIV and after growing up (since this is The After Years). Other dwarfs in FFIV are given the Black Mage treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    FFIV would like a word with you.

    This is Luca, from FFIV and after growing up (since this is The After Years). Other dwarfs in FFIV are given the Black Mage treatment.
    ....In what way whatsoever are those Dwarves of Moria type dwarves? Those are the exact same type of dwarves I posted. 9__9 Also if you want ugly crap western Dwarves just go back to WoW please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endeleon View Post
    ....In what way whatsoever are those Dwarves of Moria type dwarves? Those are the exact same type of dwarves I posted. 9__9 Also if you want ugly crap western Dwarves just go back to WoW please.
    I wouldn't worry to much, seeing how many developers choose to represent Dwarves in more modern mmorpg's many will be happy to get their jail bai... er... Small characters...

    (Archeage)





    (Black Gold)


    (Lineage/ Lineage2 Revolution)




    To be clear, i do not endorse these designs. I only use them to illustrate my belief in what we could reasonably expect to see should Dwarves come to FFXIV as a playable race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    many will be happy to get their jail bai... er... Small characters...
    Ah there it is, I was waiting for someone to pull that card. Sweeping generalization that anyone who plays a young looking character is a pedophile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    Thank you, glad to see i'm not the only one who feels this way.

    If another small race is absolutely needed, might aswell go for a fantasy staple.

    (Everquest Next Unused Dwarf race)

    I would totally be ok with that type of dwarf... Though I don't think facial hair on a lady is a FF world thing. They're adorable!!!

    I've loved Viera since FFTA, I got it when it was released, and so seeing people try to make them into those tiny bunny folk... Like no! Imagine taking Roegadyn and putting them in another game and making them small. OR BETTER YET. Taking Lala and making them huge.

    If they're gonna make a small race, it should be a small race from another game (another ff perferedly) or something special for XIV.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    FFIV would like a word with you.
    Omg she's the cutest little thing. Looks like a mini Femroe. I would LOVE this.
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