Minfilia or Lyse?

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None. Both of them were basically useless (not just combat wise), causing more trouble than they solved, and served no purpose other than stealing the focus from the individual that was doing everything for them (namely, us).

Other scion characters like Alphinaud, Thancred, or even Yda, are/were way more loveable than Minfilia or Lyse. And if we talk about leaders, Hien, Raubahn, Nanamo, and Aymeric, for instance, beat them by far too.

Aymeric? You mean the spoiled guy who does literally NOTHING for you until you're forced to go to his homeland and does nothing then but sit in a seat and give you random task like .. every other NPC ever? Why he gets a pass but Min doesn't is deyond me. Least SHE was there for us i nthe beginning until she was kidnapped by the mother crystal. Where was pretty boy? - hiding behind a big wall. :/

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Aymeric? You mean the spoiled guy who does literally NOTHING for you until you're forced to go to his homeland and does nothing then but sit in a seat and give you random task like .. every other NPC ever? Why he gets a pass but Min doesn't is deyond me. Least SHE was there for us i nthe beginning until she was kidnapped by the mother crystal. Where was pretty boy? - hiding behind a big wall. :/

He's the same guy that took Haurchefant's place in being one of the very few real friends (how many of those we actually have? we can count with one hand the people that love the WoL as an individual, and not as a weapon/tool) that will support us no matter what (something that he did from the start, but more so as time passed), even confronting his own people. You can't just go and start fighting like a mad man (or woman, in Lyses' case), and Aymeric showed us that he can be patient despite everything that he had on his shoulders, both from responsibility and also from his own family issues. And regardless of that, he was also working behind the curtains as much as he could to make things change in a place with such stubborness for "tradition" and "they did something to us but we don't know what anymore" like Ishgard. He's also the first of Ishgard's leaders that was open and wise enough to accept peace with the dragons, to open the city-state towards the rest of Eorzea, and that made it join the Eorzean Alliance once more. All that done by a man that doesn't want the power, and that is still working to make a new form of government where he is not needed, despite people wanting him to stay. I think that he has done more than enough, even almost dying while doing it and still working for what he believed in with the wound still fresh. It doesn't look like what a spoiled guy would do.

On the other hand we have Lyse, who did literally nothing useful other than tagging along while the rest of us (WoL, Alphinaud, Hien, Yugiri, Gosetsu, M'naago, Arenvald, etc.) did everything in Gyr Abania and Othard. And after that she gets appointed as the Resistance leader, and a key person in Ala Migho because of reasons (just because her dad and her sister, Yda, actually did things?), instead of giving that position to someone more experienced, who had more knowledge, and who deserved it more.

Let's be honest here. If both Minfilia or Lyse hadn't been part of the story, everything would've happened the same way. Well, outside of having to rescue them or fixing their mistakes, of course. And of the WoL having to travel around less, in Minfilia's case. They are not key, or needed, but the game tries to keep telling us that they are without showing us why. Even Tataru has done more than both of them combined.

I don't hate them, but I find it hard to like them either because of the way that they've been written. Especially when you compare them with other characters that have even made me care about them with their actions (this includes enemies).