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    Im going to say it again. I STRONGLY don't support this, blue mage cannot work in FFXIV without making it into a generic caster that functions like a black mage, just DPS with one support spell, and every 10 or 5 levels , you go kill a monster to learn one ability.. so boring, that's what you people want right? Go play black mage then.

    This BLU I like, going out into the world and learning spells from every monster in Ezorea, and teaming up with other blue mages is going to be so much fun!

    Thank you Yoshi P and dev team for making a job that's true to it's identity and something that isn't tied to the Trinity system because that's not what BLU is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    Im going to say it again. I STRONGLY don't support this, blue mage cannot work in FFXIV without making it into a generic caster that functions like a black mage, just DPS with one support spell, and every 10 or 5 levels , you go kill a monster to learn one ability.. so boring, that's what you people want right? Go play black mage then.

    This BLU I like, going out into the world and learning spells from every monster in Ezorea, and teaming up with other blue mages is going to be so much fun!

    Holy shit the amount of hyperbole in this single post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    Im going to say it again. I STRONGLY don't support this, blue mage cannot work in FFXIV without making it into a generic caster that functions like a black mage, just DPS with one support spell, and every 10 or 5 levels , you go kill a monster to learn one ability.. so boring, that's what you people want right? Go play black mage then.

    This BLU I like, going out into the world and learning spells from every monster in Ezorea, and teaming up with other blue mages is going to be so much fun!

    Thank you Yoshi P and dev team for making a job that's true to it's identity and something that isn't tied to the Trinity system because that's not what BLU is.
    Know what I see happening? Blue Mages standing around letting mobs hit them till it uses a spell then the Blue Mage killing said mob only to have to do it 10k more times. A group of BLUs doing Stone Vigil over and over again to get that one spell that's their but just wont trigger. 8 BLUs doing Coil when you can unsync said content with 2-4 regular jobs.

    Sure. Sounds fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Know what I see happening? Blue Mages standing around letting mobs hit them till it uses a spell then the Blue Mage killing said mob only to have to do it 10k more times. A group of BLUs doing Stone Vigil over and over again to get that one spell that's their but just wont trigger. 8 BLUs doing Coil when you can unsync said content with 2-4 regular jobs.

    Sure. Sounds fun.
    Can only speak for myself but my FC and I are looking forward to doing that.

    Not in reference to your comment, just in general. In an ideal world both options would have been made available from the start, but alas that is not the world we live in. I do have hope that with time they will release a version of BLU that can do endgame content, but until that happens as a community both sides should respect one another and not attacking others for differing views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    as a community both sides should respect one another and not attacking others for differing views.
    would be great… but tell that to people after 78 pages of fighting. This thread is like the saltery in the Lochs
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoleilAlphi View Post
    would be great… but tell that to people after 78 pages of fighting. This thread is like the saltery in the Lochs
    Nah... that place makes money
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    Quote Originally Posted by SoleilAlphi View Post
    would be great… but tell that to people after 78 pages of fighting. This thread is like the saltery in the Lochs
    That is true . . . guess that dream will rest along side my dream of getting body hair options for all via character creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    Im going to say it again. I STRONGLY don't support this, blue mage cannot work in FFXIV without making it into a generic caster that functions like a black mage, just DPS with one support spell, and every 10 or 5 levels , you go kill a monster to learn one ability.. so boring, that's what you people want right? Go play black mage then.

    This BLU I like, going out into the world and learning spells from every monster in Ezorea, and teaming up with other blue mages is going to be so much fun!

    Thank you Yoshi P and dev team for making a job that's true to it's identity and something that isn't tied to the Trinity system because that's not what BLU is.
    Because each caster is completely the same and plays exactly the same too, right? Also they already said that we will have job quests where you will need certain spells and which are every 5 levels, so in that case its exactly like a normal job. Again they could have easily made it a normal job with a cherry on the top by giving it more solo content in form of all the skills that they can learn and the carneval while using the skills you learn through the quests as the ones for a rotation.

    I also doubt you can learn every spell from every monster in Eorzea and we already know that the spells are not 100% like their monster part.
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    Even the poll with all its flaws (no alternative options to "black and white"), the nature of forum attracting mostly the more invested people (there are few that are not even interested in raids at all and those extreme casuals)...the results from 5842 votes is 43% for the current implementation and 57% for dumbing it down for raid.

    Sorry, but that's not anywhere near a "win". It does not validate the effort, time and money that such a change would require, basically scrapping the whole thing and making a new class from scratch. Neither side have the "upper ground". So these back and forth arguments are leading nowhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Even the poll with all its flaws (no alternative options to "black and white"), the nature of forum attracting mostly the more invested people (there are few that are not even interested in raids at all and those extreme casuals)...the results from 5842 votes is 43% for the current implementation and 57% for dumbing it down for raid.

    Sorry, but that's not anywhere near a "win". It does not validate the effort, time and money that such a change would require, basically scrapping the whole thing and making a new class from scratch. Neither side have the "upper ground". So these back and forth arguments are leading nowhere.
    Uh, 57% is over half of all votes. Thus making it the majority, I'm not saying it's a huge majority (only 14% difference) but that's still well...the majority. Which innately means more people would rather it not be implemented as it is. Again not trying to stir things up.
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