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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    i270 is an acceptable level for everything up until level 70 content. That's pretty much been my whole point here.

    The people who can coast to the new level cap without having to worry that much about their gear are the ones who bothered to get to the previous maximum item level prior to starting the new expansion, which is 270 stuff. 250 is ok for where you're at now, but you will want to actually bother to upgrade as you go. 250 will start to be lacking by the 67/69 dungeons.
    The funny thing is...I experienced what it was like to be a tank geared at 282, dealing with someone who was lacking. A healer in 360-380 gear for everything (so of course it was synced down) - except for their weapon, which was a 260 relic weapon, in Doma Castle. I had to go above and beyond to assist the healer in keeping me alive, simply because a 260 weapon for a healer (a WHM at that) does not cut it in a level 67 dungeon unless you know what you are doing. That was just a weapon for a healer. So for you to say that 250 is fine is flat out terrible advice to be giving anybody. 250 started to be lacking in Shisui, and players definitely feel it when you go into Bardam's.

    Stop assuming that just because you can do it, everybody else is capable of doing it as well. Not everybody is capable of doing that. The average DF base - especially while a huge chunk of skilled players are unsubbed due to no need for raiding - is terrible. So no, 250 gear in Doma Castle as you told that other poster is bad. There's no other way to say it - it is really bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Stop assuming that just because you can do it, everybody else is capable of doing it as well. Not everybody is capable of doing that. The average DF base - especially while a huge chunk of skilled players are unsubbed due to no need for raiding - is terrible.

    This a 1000 times over...
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    250 started to be lacking in Shisui, and players definitely feel it when you go into Bardam's.

    So no, 250 gear in Doma Castle as you told that other poster is bad. There's no other way to say it - it is really bad.
    To be fair, he said 250 is okay for where I am now, not for Castrum Abania. So far, in Stormblood I've only really done a recruiting questline for Meffrid (about to start M'naago's) and gotten caught up on my job quests.

    I was a little concerned about the chances of getting above the 272 we're talking about here by the time I reach that dungeon; that kind of an increase makes me wonder if I might need to go out of my way for some upgrades, which would seem a little odd for a dungeon that's part of the main-story leveling content.

    I'm not trying to argue with anyone, here; just trying to be informed about what I can expect in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffWellington View Post
    To be fair, he said 250 is okay for where I am now, not for Castrum Abania. So far, in Stormblood I've only really done a recruiting questline for Meffrid (about to start M'naago's) and gotten caught up on my job quests.

    I was a little concerned about the chances of getting above the 272 we're talking about here by the time I reach that dungeon; that kind of an increase makes me wonder if I might need to go out of my way for some upgrades, which would seem a little odd for a dungeon that's part of the main-story leveling content.

    I'm not trying to argue with anyone, here; just trying to be informed about what I can expect in the near future.
    When SB came out, I would just run the previous/most current dungeon several times, and gather the gear for there, and that was always good enough to advance, and upgrade as I get better gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffWellington View Post
    I was a little concerned about the chances of getting above the 272 we're talking about here by the time I reach that dungeon; that kind of an increase makes me wonder if I might need to go out of my way for some upgrades, which would seem a little odd for a dungeon that's part of the main-story leveling content.
    The game will keep giving you higher-level gear as you go. HQ vendor gear as quest rewards, and each time you run a dungeon you receive a guaranteed (but random-slot) piece of gear appropriate for your class, on top of the normal loot that you have to roll for.

    The quest rewards mean that you shouldn't have to stop and re-run dungeons for gear while going through the MSQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BiffWellington View Post
    To be fair, he said 250 is okay for where I am now, not for Castrum Abania. So far, in Stormblood I've only really done a recruiting questline for Meffrid (about to start M'naago's) and gotten caught up on my job quests.

    I was a little concerned about the chances of getting above the 272 we're talking about here by the time I reach that dungeon; that kind of an increase makes me wonder if I might need to go out of my way for some upgrades, which would seem a little odd for a dungeon that's part of the main-story leveling content.

    I'm not trying to argue with anyone, here; just trying to be informed about what I can expect in the near future.
    Yeah, I'm gonna be honest, don't listen to him, he's talking out his mouth. Generally you want to start upgrading your gear beginning in Shisui. If you're 250, then yeah, Shisui is where you want to start doing that. MSQ should keep you pretty set, tho.
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