Change the loot system for normal raids

[Jonnycbad]

I laugh when people say "random isn't fair". Random is random. Sometimes it favors you, sometimes it doesn't. You're competing with 2 layers of RNG. 1) the chance that it will drop 1-2 of your desired item, 2) your 0-99 roll for said item has to beat up to 7 other players also rolling on the item. Still, I wonder why they don't have a system similar to Savage for normal as well. Drop the 4 component parts, and everyone gets a page also. That way, in 4-8 weeks or so you can get a guaranteed piece of your choice from each fight.

[DrWho2010]

because there are no restrictions on running normal. also queues would die out too quickly.

[Kurando]

because there are no restrictions on running normal. also queues would die out too quickly.

If it is the latest tier then there are weekly restrictions, even for normal. Unless you meant something else...

[whiskeybravo]

And don't give me that crap "it's RNG, its random!" because anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can see that it is not.

Then what is it? A GM watching over every instance picking and choosing who gets the loot?

We've all been cucked by RNG. Hell I've even cucked myself when RNG was favorable (waited 6 weeks for omega tank gloves to drop, they finally dropped and I left the instance before everyone was done rolling ._.). So I understand the need to vent. RNG is RNG.

[DrWho2010]

If it is the latest tier then there are weekly restrictions, even for normal. Unless you meant something else...

well yes until normal is unlocked once you get a piece for the week then you're done, what i mean is that if you get a piece you're not affecting the loot the next time you step into another instance.

[Malblind]

I honestly cant remember a time i have been more frustrated in any MMO than running the first normal for 4 straight hours and not getting the one stupid bolt I need. Congrats SE you kept me in the que for that long but how many people have you turned away because of it? Lots of people have alt jobs that would still go into the normal raids for early gear but now they just craft like others have said rather than going in the que. Oh and you think i want to inconvenience my FC or friends to run a crappy normal raid just so i can get one piece of gear for a side job, yeah right! Also not everyone has a crafter or can buy all crafted gear, besides most of it has garbage stats. Now your going to tell me to level a crafter and do something i despise (crafting) to avoid another thing i despise (crappy rng loot system), sound logic! How about they just implement a system that reduces the rng by having only 1 chest pop but you get a token or book like the savage raids where at least you get a token to exchange. Even if it takes 6 or 8 of them for 1 piece at least i would still have the notion that i didn't just completely waste my time.

[DrWho2010]

I honestly cant remember a time i have been more frustrated in any MMO than running the first normal for 4 straight hours and not getting the one stupid bolt I need. Congrats SE you kept me in the que for that long but how many people have you turned away because of it? Lots of people have alt jobs that would still go into the normal raids for early gear but now they just craft like others have said rather than going in the que. Oh and you think i want to inconvenience my FC or friends to run a crappy normal raid just so i can get one piece of gear for a side job, yeah right! Also not everyone has a crafter or can buy all crafted gear, besides most of it has garbage stats. Now your going to tell me to level a crafter and do something i despise (crafting) to avoid another thing i despise (crappy rng loot system), sound logic! How about they just implement a system that reduces the rng by having only 1 chest pop but you get a token or book like the savage raids where at least you get a token to exchange. Even if it takes 6 or 8 of them for 1 piece at least i would still have the notion that i didn't just completely waste my time.

if they're your friends/fc mates they shouldn't mind running something quick for you....

[Acelyn]

you shouldn't need normal raid loot, its pretty much placeholder/glam gear right now, honestly to me its really there just to keep the queue alive, and if thats the case its working perfectly

[Songwillow]

I honestly don't get the complaints on the RNG in a game. In programming, a number is randomly generated for people. Every major MMO has a need/greed rolling system of 1-100. If you don't get your roll, don't think the game is against you because it was programmed to be against you. Know that your luck is just poor that roll. It is like someone complaining about rolling 20 sized die and not getting 20 every time. Probability is simply a fair and impartial way to give everyone a chance at loot. At least in this game you can only need gear that is part of your class to prevent sniping like there was in early days of WoW.

[Karshan]

you shouldn't need normal raid loot, its pretty much placeholder/glam gear right now, honestly to me its really there just to keep the queue alive, and if thats the case its working perfectly

You might want to stuff subjobs up to 380 and won't go all crafted cause sometimes the substats are shit.

I main caster, but I managed to stuff DRG, BRD/MCH, NIN, healers and tanks to almost BiS like repartition of substats (only not BiS cause in 380 and not 400), thanks to a combination of Pyros, O9-12 and crafted pieces, and Some Suaku for a few weapons. That way I can take them in Savage and though not doing the best DPS of the team, still have the minimum gear needed to be serious about it.

So yes I can understand there is still a need for some people, just not for their main. Which makes it even more tedious, spending countless hours for subjobs...