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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Thank you for posting that. Of course some people around here won't care and say SE is going to lose them as a customer if the servers aren't online today!
    I've read this entire thread and don't remember seeing anyone say that.
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    Move them to the UK... We're in the middle =p
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    And with that article, things don't bode well for a server restart today.
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    Dear S-E,
    Your s#!% has improved, but it's not quite there yet...you might want to see to that.
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    Servers should really be in multiple locations worldwide, I get its expensive and with the current state + amount of players that FF14 has it seems pointless, but you can't expect to get a top mmo without preparing for one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerc View Post
    And with that article, things don't bode well for a server restart today.
    That article has absolutely nothing to do with SE, considering that they're talking about "PARTS shortages". The Japanese industry has been disrupted for a while, and the supply chain needs time to restart.
    A server farm goes on electricity, not parts, it's not an assembly chain.

    Should really read articles beyond the headline

    Quote Originally Posted by Zhou View Post
    Servers should really be in multiple locations worldwide, I get its expensive and with the current state + amount of players that FF14 has it seems pointless, but you can't expect to get a top mmo without preparing for one
    No.
    Even MMOs that have multiple server locations worldwide do so only because they have different regions served. In the case of a disaster that hit the areas of the servers, that regions would have to shut down anyway, simply because you can't just move operation of a whole region to another server farm by snapping a finger.
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    I don't think multiple location of servers is needed. XI had consolidated servers as well and only now came offline due to a natural disaster. These are rare occurrences, hardly placing it at the top of the priority list. The added cost equates to an unnecessary insurance policy.

    Besides, more blame for the server situation could be placed on TEPCO rather than S-E, as they missed inspections at at least one plant that could've helped to avoid (or at least mitigate) power shortages and reactor meltdowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    That article has absolutely nothing to do with SE, considering that they're talking about "PARTS shortages". The Japanese industry has been disrupted for a while, and the supply chain needs time to restart.
    A server farm goes on electricity, not parts, it's not an assembly chain.

    Should really read articles beyond the headline
    Roll your eyes all you want. I read beyond the headline, and the story. The assembly chain refers to manufactured components, in which some of the critical steps occurred only in Japan. Let's think, what do the machines that handle these highly sensitive and exact operations run on again...oh yeah, electricity. The same thing as S-E's servers. So, I think we can draw a logical conclusion that if these plants have to extend their shutdowns (in an industry that eclipses the MMO market in both GDP and worldwide economic impact) than S-E will have to extend their shutdown as well.

    Should really read articles beyond the headline, and then apply that information in a critical way.
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    Dear S-E,
    Your s#!% has improved, but it's not quite there yet...you might want to see to that.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerc View Post
    Roll your eyes all you want. I read beyond the headline, and the story. The assembly chain refers to manufactured components, in which some of the critical steps occurred only in Japan. Let's think, what do the machines that handle these highly sensitive and exact operations run on again...oh yeah, electricity. The same thing as S-E's servers. So, I think we can draw a logical conclusion that if these plants have to extend their shutdowns (in an industry that eclipses the MMO market in both GDP and worldwide economic impact) than S-E will have to extend their shutdown as well.

    Should really read articles beyond the headline, and then apply that information in a critical way.
    I doubt "applying that information in a critical way" means assuming that a whole supply chain could be even slightly comparable to a server farm.

    Even if the first manufacturers in a supply chain for electronics (semiconductor manufacturers) were to restart production today (and nothing said that they didn't restart already), it'd take at least a week for the finished parts to reach Sony's assembly facility.
    There are no parts that need to reach SE's servers. They just need electricity, that by the way, they already have, considering that the Shibuya ward has never been part of the rolling blackouts.

    While the article linked is a matter of lacking the physical means to restart production, SE has those physical means, and the restart of their servers is just a matter of a corporate decision.

    Not saying they will decide to restart the servers, but you're comparing apples to oranges, and applying to SE a situation that simply doesn't apply to their business type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerc View Post
    I don't think multiple location of servers is needed. XI had consolidated servers as well and only now came offline due to a natural disaster. These are rare occurrences, hardly placing it at the top of the priority list. The added cost equates to an unnecessary insurance policy.

    Besides, more blame for the server situation could be placed on TEPCO rather than S-E, as they missed inspections at at least one plant that could've helped to avoid (or at least mitigate) power shortages and reactor meltdowns.
    Thank you, it's about time someone says that. Every time I hear "backup servers" or "move servers" I want to punch a cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerc View Post
    And with that article, things don't bode well for a server restart today.
    Did people even read the article? It talks about companies being forced to suspend production in their factories because of lack of component supplies.

    This doesn't concern SE. From what I can understand, the area SE is located in is not affected by the scheduled power cuts and is mostly stable. This doesn't mean that they should restart servers immediately though, they should take as much time as is needed.

    Yes, they are a business and as their customers they have certain obligations towards us but national interest comes first. I'm sure they know what they are doing and what needs to be done.

    Priorities, people.

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