Gunblade job must be a DPS.

[SargentToughie]

I mean, a Viking Job that uses a hammer and acts like Thor with a bunch of Lightning based attack would probably get a LOT of people excited.

I think you're vastly overstating how many people actually like the design motif for hammers. Take Monster Hunter for instance: Hunting Horns and Hammers are actually insanely strong in those games, but I legit can't remember the last time I saw anybody use them in online play. They're both absolute bottom of the barrel in playerbase despite their incredible power.

Not only that, but Viking showed up in FFIII as a forgettable filler job late in the game, and then it shows up in a ton of random spinoffs. In terms as a job/archetype in the realm of Final Fantasy, it has no legacy, no heritage.

And then you're gonna try to pitch this thing in the same expansion that they release Soldier as a melee DPS class that uses a Gunblade? It's practically insulting at that point. Would we even be having this discussion right now if Thor didn't get a resurgence thanks to the Marvel movies? And even then, Thor's appeal is more in his absolutely insane physicals and his godhood than the hammer he lugs around. The best, most beloved movie in his franchise has the hammer get shattered in the first act.

[Vahlnir]

And then you're gonna try to pitch this thing in the same expansion that they release Soldier as a melee DPS class that uses a Gunblade? It's practically insulting at that point. Would we even be having this discussion right now if Thor didn't get a resurgence thanks to the Marvel movies? And even then, Thor's appeal is more in his absolutely insane physicals and his godhood than the hammer he lugs around. The best, most beloved movie in his franchise has the hammer get shattered in the first act.

To be fair, Thor's hammer is still pretty iconic. It just turned out he didn't need it after all in Thor: Ragnarok. Thor also had a new axe forged, Stormbringer. It looked pretty awesome as well. But...it's not a hammer, and certainly looks better than Mjollnir imo.

Anyway, back on topic. Hammers aren't the most desirable weapons. It's actually kinda hard to make one look cool. SE would have to really outdo themselves if they ever added a hammer-wielding job. The best way to do so imo would be to make it a Magitek weapon. Nero's hammer in ARR was amazing. A "Magitek Knight" sorta job like I've seen people mention would probably be able to pull it off as a hammer user. SE would just have to make it extra flashy.

Personally, I'm looking forward to gunblades regardless of what it is. If it's a dps? Great. If it's a tank? Just as well. Some people just want the job because they love the concept and past FF characters. Squall is my favorite character ever. I happen to be one of those people who simply wants to live their dream.

[Dark_Lord_Kuro]

Well blue mage does drop before shadow bringer therefore its a stormblood job

[Drakkaelus]

I think you're vastly overstating how many people actually like the design motif for hammers. Take Monster Hunter for instance: Hunting Horns and Hammers are actually insanely strong in those games, but I legit can't remember the last time I saw anybody use them in online play. They're both absolute bottom of the barrel in playerbase despite their incredible power.

Eh, Hammer's pretty popular in MH. Not the most popular weapon, but nowhere near the bottom of the barrel. MH:W actually tracks weapon usage, so it's easy enough to verify.

Not so much the Hunting Horn but I'm sure that has more to do with it being an unorthodox, "support" weapon more than it being a hammer.

[ReiMakoto]

Not only that, but Viking showed up in FFIII as a forgettable filler job late in the game, and then it shows up in a ton of random spinoffs. In terms as a job/archetype in the realm of Final Fantasy, it has no legacy, no heritage.

A filler job that had one of the strongest job abilities. Seriously, get a few job levels on viking and then spam provoke with 2 shields equipped and you just don't die, Viking tanks just about everything, one of my fav playthroughs of 3 used viking. It wasn't also late in the game it was after the water crystal which is kinda the mid point.

Not that I'd ever want it as a job in ffxiv mind, don't think it has enough clout for that, not to mention that it wouldn't exactly fit the expansion theme.

[Alacran]

I mean, a Viking Job that uses a hammer and acts like Thor with a bunch of Lightning based attack would probably get a LOT of people excited.

Even Thor upgraded to the two handed axe.


I have always hated the cry for Viking as a hammer using tank.

WE HAVE WARRIOR ALREADY!

With skills like:

Storms Path
Berserk
Storms Eye

For crying out loud Holmgang was began a duel between early medieval Scandinavians. We already have a Viking job in the game!

That being said the idea for a Hammer job in FFXIV is still possible you need only change up the thematics.

In this game we already have Nero and Grynewaht using two handed hammers setting a precedent for an existing class/ job of Garlean origin. From my perspective they do not seem to be Vikings to me. Would it not make more sense to have a Engineer who makes magitek field emitters that create defensive/ buffing AoE's and make it a Tank role? Something that would mirror Machinist but with a Tank role rather than a DPS. The whole story could be wrapped around Garlean defectors trying to help make their homeland something to be proud of, something i feel is being missed with the current defectors we have had contact with.

He even calls his hammer Mjolnir ffs...


We could also go the completely different route and ask for a DPS maiming Job like Crusader. A hard hitting but slow DPS that staggers opponents and crushes enemy defenses.

(yes this is a class from Diablo 3, and i think it looks amazing)

Suddenly think hammers arn't cool enough for DPS? How about a Mystic Knight with a Scythe that summons an Owl companion much like FFXI Dragoons did with their Wyverns?


(Guild Wars Dervish armor concepts)

Point being, we have Viking already. Cool new Jobs arn't that hard to come up with, even while sticking to that games lore and setting.

[Lunalepsy]

Too many DPS "classes" because we are under the curse of The Holy Trinity. Once they break free (which they never will), you will see some DPS classes being support, healers, semi-tanks and all those nice and beautiful things.

[SturmChurro]

That being said the idea for a Hammer job in FFXIV is still possible you need only change up the thematics.

In this game we already have Nero and Grynewaht using two handed hammers setting a precedent for an existing class/ job of Garlean origin. From my perspective they do not seem to be Vikings to me. Would it not make more sense to have a Engineer who makes magitek field emitters that create defensive/ buffing AoE's and make it a Tank role? Something that would mirror Machinist but with a Tank role rather than a DPS. The whole story could be wrapped around Garlean defectors trying to help make their homeland something to be proud of, something i feel is being missed with the current defectors we have had contact with.

He even calls his hammer Mjolnir ffs...

Gunhammer could be cool, actually. A little bit redundant if there is a gunblade, though.

[Zarkovitch]

how about a no.

[Alacran]

Gunhammer could be cool, actually. A little bit redundant if there is a gunblade, though.

As redundant as yet another melee DPS. What can Soldier (Gun Blade Job) do that Samurai can't? Besides i never said it had to be a gun hammer, just a hammer. Also i meant to play up the whole smash the gizmo to make work joke.