Luminary tools- a real achievement

[TheVedis]

But apparently all those people who PL'd their battle classes to 50 before the achievements deserve their reward right away. They dont have to go re-kill 5,600 mobs of different levels, in all three zones, on every class, for a Paragon's Crown.

exactly
its entitlement

as i said, i have ALL 18 jobs at 50, but you dont see me demanding that i get everything for free now that its added

no, im going to go and grind out everything

after all, what was the point in getting the job to 50 if i wasnt gonna use it....

[VenusDoom]

There are some people who just don't care, and that is fine. For those of us who are upset, our argument is this: Since SE was keeping a log on the number of monsters you killed, they might as well have been keeping track of number of synths/gathers too. It already takes considerably longer to level a DoL/DoH over a DoW/DoM, and those of us who have done it already, essentially have to do it again to earn an achievement. Those who leveled DoM/Dow and killed 100,000 enemies logged into the game and got their achievement, and congratulations to them. Even the folks who leveled all Crafts/DoL to 50 pre-patch, they logged in and got... a Title? Yippee. To get our actual useful items as DoH/DoL, we have to level our jobs over again.

[Jennestia]

good job editing out and not replying to my question above.

It was already stated lodestone history will roll over for certain ones which is exactly why people unlocked certain ones already.

You don't get an achievement in history for having all classes to 50, or doing x amount of synths/gathering (just checked a few players I know with all 50s and I know kept track of synths from 1-50.) Yet you cannot relevel to 50 on every class.

You can continue to do gathering and crafting however.

[KingZeus]

as i said, i have ALL 18 jobs at 50, but you dont see me demanding that i get everything for free now that its added

no, im going to go and grind out everything

seriously, stop saying "free" because you fail to understand it and are using it wrong

Tons of us have already put it hard hard hard time crafting and gathering. THIS is what you are referring to when you say "free"
obviously, you are mis-using this term.
obviously, putting it tons of hours and hours crafting/gather was NOT free. the COST was putting in those hours of time

stop saying FREE...we ALREADY grinded it out, it's NOT free

[TheVedis]

seriously, stop saying "free" because you fail to understand it and are using it wrong

Tons of us have already put it hard hard hard time crafting and gathering. THIS is what you are referring to when you say "free"
obviously, you are mis-using this term.
obviously, putting it tons of hours and hours crafting/gather was NOT free. the COST was putting in those hours of time

stop saying FREE...we ALREADY grinded it out, it's NOT free

it would be free, you just dont want to admit it

did you personaly go to every single region, at every single grade, and hit the nodes as many time as it says you needed?

even if they comped you what you had done you wouldnt be anywhere near done with these achievments, and i can 100% guarentee that

so in the end, yes free

this thread is about entitlement

[KingZeus]

it would be free, you just dont want to admit it

did you personaly go to every single region, at every single grade, and hit the nodes as many time as it says you needed?

YES I SURE DID

so in the end, yes free

this thread is about entitlement

ffs, there you go with the "free" again.
i will not be reading another one of your posts in the future.

cheers

IL+1

[KingZeus]

gonna take off my boxers now and let myself be free while getting my reindeer suit
have a nice day

[SynysterBlitz]

This is a shity idea for time-sink and SE think this is will keep us busy for another year till 2.0 release. Really, SE showing -1 respect to who got their jobs ( DoH / DoL ) to 50. Actually, I feel like SE wiping my data /cry

/sad

I was thinking the same thing, while I do not have every Doh/DoL at 50, I have invested alot of time into crafting and gathering... and lets face it to go and redo the lower level recipes/gathering nodes is absurd on so many levels.. Id like the chance to reset my crafts and gathering classes to 0..

So I can at least do it progressively.. my GSM is 50.. I leveled it when 200-300 a synth was OK and you grinded like 500-600 items for one level.. this is a slap in the face to many players.. and I dont care about Hasty Hand.. yes I can spam hasty hand no problem.. but why should I have to... I dont want to go to backwards, I want to go forward.. and the argument about npcing or reselling to lower levels is counterproductive.. the time it would take for me to put stuff on wards would be less time spent Hasty Handing..

and for one players will choose the path of least resistance.. so whatever recipe level achievement people will be going for, they will be picking the recipe with lowest cost/time to gather materials.. this will not create a better market for lowbies.. it will be exact same as before... you will just have the elitists spamming there way through synths with either bots or Hasty Hand.. so yes having these stats start at 0 puts everyone on even playing grounds.. but not everyone has every craft/gatherer at 0.. and if you're 50 and think its ok to have to redo all this just for a shiny gold tool.. then you're pretty delusional...

[Giant]

first of all, let me turn it on :

/angry-mode ON


There is nothing for free in business world

They took our $$ and delivered unfinished product. <--- they said that not me ;p

SE reputation was very down, they want to gain it back. They said: go play for free till we fix it. Now they fix it and will start billing.

If the game was at this stage at release, kiss-my-a** if they letting you play for FREE

if they closed the servers to fix the game, they should pay back around 20M+/- USD beside that, they'll lose more customers, so they let the game to be something like free which is actually, NOT. We paid

Anyway, Achievement system is something I really like and love But to make it re-roll, this is what I don't like ^-^;

They design the achievement to be SUPER rewardable to ppl who will just start leveling : 20 gather @ Grade-1, then 300 gather @ grade-2 ... etc

/angry-mode OFF

Have a nice day guys ^-^

[Orophin]

Well on the plus side, I get to redocument which fish like which baits now as they have changed a bit. (truly no sarcasm here)

And while it's not something I'd do or condone, you can auto fish in the regular waters, as it doesn't require you to specifically fish from schools you'd search for with Gulleye. But there's also spearfishing achievements, so I'm going to go around and fish these areas up and hopefully make some money in the progress. (already collected about 50 purple dyes last night and some of the GC provision fish to turn in for seals)

I can get why people that are capped are upset, but this just wasn't one of the stats SE tracked. It's no secret they tend to lean more towards the favor of DoW/DoM classes. if you really want the reward you'll put the time towards it. I know I will. It's my goal to be server first for the fishing rod.