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    Quote Originally Posted by KingZeus View Post
    the fact that people are receiving achievements in game right now for something they didn't do AFTER YESTERDAYS PATCH trumps your debate on the subject

    sorry, but it does

    this is a very simple thing to understand and smashes your reason to bits
    Lodestone History > Mob slaying
    Community Rep > "What's in your history you will not have to reobtain, for example killing 100 monsters."
    1.20 Achievement system > You get the achievement for monster killing.

    Looking over Lodestone history..doesn't appear you get an achievement that would retroactively unlock in-game in this regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    Lodestone History > Mob slaying
    Community Rep > "What's in your history you will not have to reobtain, for example killing 100 monsters."
    1.20 Achievement system > You get the achievement for monster killing.

    Looking over Lodestone history..doesn't appear you get an achievement that would retroactively unlock in-game in this regard.
    you are seriously not winning anything here with that statement... except a huge roll of the eyes

    go answer my question

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post484399
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingZeus View Post
    you are seriously not winning anything here with that statement...
    The very fact they stated certain ones would roll over from your lodestone history is exactly why people are auto-unlocking certain ones like monster slaying.

    But I'm sure they'll change this so people can get their handouts then complain to SE there's nothing to work for in this game -- Given that being able to play an MMO for free for over a year without the presence of ANY type of fee (Cashshop or other) isn't already a 'thank you for sticking around', not to mention Yoshida himself saying Quest and Story you can only experience by playing 1.0 can't be experienced by anyone else as well as special mounts in 2.0 isn't a thank you either for your dedication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    The very fact they stated certain ones would roll over from your lodestone history is exactly why people are auto-unlocking certain ones like monster slaying.

    But I'm sure they'll change this so people can get their handouts then complain to SE there's nothing to work for in this game -- Given that being able to play an MMO for free for over a year without the presence of ANY type of fee (Cashshop or other) isn't already a 'thank you for sticking around', not to mention Yoshida himself saying Quest and Story you can only experience by playing 1.0 can't be experienced by anyone else as well as special mounts in 2.0 isn't a thank you either for your dedication.
    good job editing out and not replying to my question above. here, i'll repost it

    In game right now, there are people wearing a crown for achieving something after already killing 100,000 mobs.

    now, did.......they....earn..... it?

    if you answer yes, i will not read another one of your worthless posts in this thread any longer
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingZeus View Post
    good job editing out and not replying to my question above.
    It was already stated lodestone history will roll over for certain ones which is exactly why people unlocked certain ones already.

    You don't get an achievement in history for having all classes to 50, or doing x amount of synths/gathering (just checked a few players I know with all 50s and I know kept track of synths from 1-50.) Yet you cannot relevel to 50 on every class.

    You can continue to do gathering and crafting however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingZeus View Post
    good job editing out and not replying to my question above. here, i'll repost it

    In game right now, there are people wearing a crown for achieving something after already killing 100,000 mobs.

    now, did.......they....earn..... it?

    if you answer yes, i will not read another one of your worthless posts in this thread any longer
    That is ignorant. The fact of the matter is there was no tracking system in place for Crafting and Gathering Success. There was one for Killing. There is absolutely no way for them to determine how many you have done in the past.

    If your argument is "They should not have gotten their kills retroactively" then your a hypocrite because you think you should have gotten your successes retroactively.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    That is ignorant. The fact of the matter is there was no tracking system in place for Crafting and Gathering Success. There was one for Killing. There is absolutely no way for them to determine how many you have done in the past.

    If your argument is "They should not have gotten their kills retroactively" then your a hypocrite because you think you should have gotten your successes retroactively.
    It doesn't matter whether a counter existed or not. Like I said already some basic maths would produce a minimum of what you should have. Of course you're probably the type to argue that it's impossible to say whether you've completed at least one synth to get to 50, nevermind better estimates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    It doesn't matter whether a counter existed or not. Like I said already some basic maths would produce a minimum of what you should have. Of course you're probably the type to argue that it's impossible to say whether you've completed at least one synth to get to 50, nevermind better estimates.
    the crafting ones may be a bit more accurate, but people still wouldnt have had them all, especialy those who always did the max exp synth possible, and used the "bonus exp" items and so on

    they would still be severely short of the achievemnts
    but they would have some work done...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    It doesn't matter whether a counter existed or not. Like I said already some basic maths would produce a minimum of what you should have. Of course you're probably the type to argue that it's impossible to say whether you've completed at least one synth to get to 50, nevermind better estimates.
    It is impossible to say that you have completed 3000 level 41-50 synths to hit 50. I mean I did the math. 3000 well rounded synths is enough XP to get from 35-50. The problem of course is that at 45ish you start doing 51-60 synths and at 35-45 alot of people do levequests, which give you double xp because of reward xp. There is no way to legitimately count the numbers.

    An Achievement's sole purpose is braging rights. It is not proof of your past. Your Reward for completing these is the ability to say "I did it!" The actual physical rewards are useless. there is no point in having a retroactive Achievement system. It is supposed to be something to strive toward, not something to have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiote View Post
    That is ignorant. The fact of the matter is there was no tracking system in place for Crafting and Gathering Success. There was one for Killing. There is absolutely no way for them to determine how many you have done in the past.

    If your argument is "They should not have gotten their kills retroactively" then your a hypocrite because you think you should have gotten your successes retroactively.
    obviously you have some math problems.
    put the gather aside, since most ppl only gather in 1 or 2 regions, seldom ppl will gathering all over the world.

    for the craft, just add up all the exp you need to lvl divided by 250
    you can find the total exp u need here http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Skill_Points
    1,781,150 / 250 = 7124.6, ok u will more from higher recipe, but it definitely more than current request, plus ppl make stuffs after lvl 50.
    base on the achievement request, SE just want us to lvl it again.
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