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  1. #18421
    Player
    Iscah's Avatar
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    Character
    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Driskus View Post
    Decided to do leveling as healer in need for the extra cluster and got a brand-new DRK who's never tanked before, and had mostly DoH/DoL gear on the left side. The dungeon was Brayflox of course. We somehow cleared, but I had to spend like 95% of the time healing and was only able to toss out the occasional Aero or Stone if I was really lucky. Of course that was the only gear he had.
    I feel like the game is to blame for that. They give you the bare minimum (shirt and pants) but not a full set of Lv30 gear.

    Combined with the joys of how the gear recommendation system handles tanks... a newbie tank is prettymuch doomed to be awfully geared if they don't realise they need to get more armour. (or at least to equip the Lv20 gauntlets they got from a dungeon instead of the "recommended" Lv30 crafter gloves.)



    Quote Originally Posted by ChaseNetwork View Post
    Maybe the Dragoon has PTSD from the MSQ Roulette Dungeons, who's shortcuts can often send you backwards. xD
    I got caught out with that one time! Somehow ended up way behind the group in the armour-riding section so I hopped off and used the shortcut... which dumped me back in the room where you get into the armour. Except it's gone.

    So because I knew the dungeon well enough, I was able to take the lift back down and regroup with the party that way (and fortunately found an abandoned newbie along the way in those dark days of skippable cutscenes), but a new player would be totally lost if that happened to them.



    Quote Originally Posted by Aosha View Post
    You know, one of these days I was planning to write a "leveling guide", like a rundown of what stuff you get when, and what their uses are. I'm not too great on any job, but I know all of them "well enough" to do something like that. The problem would be finding a place to put it, so that people could find it. :/
    I've had the same thought, though I'm shockingly disorganised and probably wouldn't get around to doing it.

    A straightforward list/table of "at level X you gain skill Y. At this point your basic rotation should be ABC and using Y when available."

    It would be a huge help for understanding what things do, instead of eventually figuring it out (or having to watch video guides, which I don't like so much for simple reference).
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  2. #18422
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    AdrenKael's Avatar
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    Dec 2018
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    Character
    Adren Kael
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 51
    A direct copy and paste from the chat log of a duty I just ran.....
    Tank couldnt hold aggro, didnt use defiance and was chewing me out when I only said Defiance.
    Again cut and past from the chat log. I blocked out the name to protect the moron.

    (Adrean Dragonstar) o/
    (Adrean Dragonstar) first time here
    (Adrean Dragonstar) ***** defiance
    (A*****Midgardsormr) Suggestion: don't use Regen before I pull
    (Adrean Dragonstar) how bout we dont tank them in the massive aoes?
    (A*****Midgardsormr) Otherwise, you will receive the Hate
    (A*****Midgardsormr) Adriene, chill
    (A*****Midgardsormr) Again, you need to chill
    (A*****Midgardsormr) The massive AoE wasn't the issue
    (Adrean Dragonstar) im giggling
    (A*****Midgardsormr) Let me Tank, you just be dispensible
    (A*****Midgardsormr) I'm shaking my head
    (Adrean Dragonstar) And im getting hit again
    (Adrean Dragonstar) Yep and the healer is dead
    (A*****Midgardsormr) You never raised on the first boss
    (A*****Midgardsormr) It's all recorded
    (A*****Midgardsormr) But you're being a pompous player rioght now
    (A*****Midgardsormr) *right
    (Adrean Dragonstar) Please submit it please
    (A*****Midgardsormr) No problem
    (A*****Midgardsormr) Meanwhile
    (Adrean Dragonstar) Meanwhile?
    (A*****Midgardsormr) I'm voting you out
    (A*****Midgardsormr) And reporting you
    (A*****Midgardsormr) If no one votes them out
    (A*****Midgardsormr) I'll report the entire party, save my friend that I'm helping here
    (Adrean Dragonstar) I can heal alot of things ***** but I cant heal your stupidity

    I did Report her BTW for threats.
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    Last edited by AdrenKael; 12-21-2018 at 07:41 PM.

  3. #18423
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    Rymm's Avatar
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    Character
    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AdrenKael View Post
    A direct copy and paste from the chat log of a duty I just ran.....
    -snip-
    I did Report her BTW for threats.
    Yeah, tank seemed like a jerk. But they had a point about not casting regen pre-pull. I don't even try to argue with healers about it anymore, I just click it off whenever I see it between trash packs.

    Also SE won't do anything about either reports from that group. In that regard, you were both being petty and wasting GMs' time. In bad groups like this it's best to either just vote them out or leave; trying to get GMs to play referee to pointless, trivial squabbles is immature and just gums up the system for people trying to report actual issues.
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  4. #18424
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    Yeol's Avatar
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    Character
    Dr Yeol
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Expert, me WHM had a PLD tank that used Clemency every time his HP dropped to ~75%
    (1)
    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

  5. #18425
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    May 2018
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    Character
    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Shiva in trial roulette, in the final stretch. DPS are three samurai and me on red mage. Things are going smoothly, when suddenly the offtank taunts her, she cleaves the entire party to death except for me and the tanks (I don't know why the healers were in melee range to begin with....). The offtank then ran off into the ice around the edge of the platform, died, and laughed about it.

    MT and I still managed to finish her off.

    Lots of reporting happened.
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  6. #18426
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Eureka Orthos
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    Character
    Gunnar Mel'nik
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    Literally every time I do alliance raid roulette I get Labyrinth of the Ancients, and every time during the Atomos fight no one ever knows what to do. I can understand a new person not knowing, but there's rarely new people. I feel compelled to remind everyone to keep 4 people on the platforms because somehow these people can have every class at 70 and don't know how to do that fight. How do you get so far and screw up something so simple.
    (0)

  7. #18427
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    Kaoru_Nagisa's Avatar
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    Azeroth
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    Character
    Crowe Valtyr
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Literally every time I do alliance raid roulette I get Labyrinth of the Ancients, and every time during the Atomos fight no one ever knows what to do. I can understand a new person not knowing, but there's rarely new people. I feel compelled to remind everyone to keep 4 people on the platforms because somehow these people can have every class at 70 and don't know how to do that fight. How do you get so far and screw up something so simple.
    I think the worst part is when it's done deliberately. I've seen other parties all rush to their Atomos just to down it first for... idk. Bragging rights? And completely ignore people screaming at them to get on the platform.

    No point even killing an Atomos quickly, you end up having to wait for the other two groups regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kisama View Post
    The average playerbase is mindbogglingly bad at this game.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Karowolus View Post
    If WoW has a toxic negativity problem, XIV has a toxic Positivity problem

  8. #18428
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Character
    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I always see the ranged players run off the platform, so the melee has to stand behind and....dance, mostly.
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  9. #18429
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Character
    Ghishlain Pyrial
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    I entered 50/60 Roulette as a BLM with a WHM friend and ended up on Antitower.

    The tank in question had as much HP as myself and the WHM, so I wasn't expecting any super pulls.

    The other BLM who was in our party had 6K less HP than me and... was using an i110 weapon. They were also only using a level 50 rotation as well. The rest of the gear was 250+ but needless to say, the run took a very long time..

    There were no concerns aside from the fact the dungeon was slow, but holy crap people, PLEASE UPGRADE YOUR WEAPONS. PLEASE.
    (2)

  10. #18430
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Feb 2016
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    Lavender Beds, Ward 13, Plot 41
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    7,339
    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    Been leveling my alt the last few days, and I get a tank in the Aery that had 1,000 less HP than me........the healer. They were in Green HQ i90 gear with NQ i115 accessories. We had to take things veeeeeery sloooooow. At least I had a BRD and a MCH for Refresh because my tank was pretty squishy. At least he was trying to use cooldowns.

    First time I've felt glad HW leveling dungeons were nerfed.....
    (2)
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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