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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    But grats on getting Elezen with permanent bunny ears, will totally add to the race variety we have. /s
    I honestly facepalm every time someone says that Viera are "elezen with bunny ears".
    You do realize that every race gets different models/animations/emotes/faces/features? Just because they're tall it doesn't make them elezen. It's like saying that male AuRa are elezen with horns.
    And if we would get really short bunnies they would be lalafells with bunny ears then, following such logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    I honestly facepalm every time someone says that Viera are "elezen with bunny ears".
    You do realize that every race gets different models/animations/emotes/faces/features? Just because they're tall it doesn't make them elezen. It's like saying that male AuRa are elezen with horns.
    And if we would get really short bunnies they would be lalafells with bunny ears then, following such logic.
    They're talking about how they look overall. Most playable races in this game are all different flavours of humans, with only a couple being able to tell what they are at a quick glance (Lalafells are obvious, as they're the shortest race in the game and lack knees. Roegadyn males are also easy to spot since they're muscular box men and are the only race in this game that look good in the Vanu Vanu gear).

    Au Ra could have been way better if SE went with the dragon/demon concept art (I think back before HW came out, I claimed the males were pretty much Elezen with horns and females Miqo'te with horns. The two are very similar in appearance if you don't look hard enough, or angle the camera a certain way). I honestly would have preferred Viera over Au Ra, all because of the concept art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    They're talking about how they look overall. Most playable races in this game are all different flavours of humans, with only a couple being able to tell what they are at a quick glance (Lalafells are obvious, as they're the shortest race in the game and lack knees. Roegadyn males are also easy to spot since they're muscular box men and are the only race in this game that look good in the Vanu Vanu gear).
    The thing is that pretty much any race would be one of "different flavours of humans" because there is just no other way, everything is based on human-like anatomy. And we all know SE wouldn't remake all pieces of gear just to bring a beast-type race.

    I'm fairly certain that Viera's ears won't look anywhere near the Gold Saucer bunny ears and it will be something to make them stand out and pretty easy to spot in a crowd, much more than cats and lizards (I myself can't tell an AuRa apart from a far sometimes).
    Plus for all we know actual playable Viera could look a bit different from Fran and closer to their concept arts. And we don't even know how tall they'll actually be yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    The thing is that pretty much any race would be one of "different flavours of humans" because there is just no other way, everything is based on human-like anatomy. And we all know SE wouldn't remake all pieces of gear just to bring a beast-type race.

    I'm fairly certain that Viera's ears won't look anywhere near the Gold Saucer bunny ears and it will be something to make them stand out and pretty easy to spot in a crowd, much more than cats and lizards (I myself can't tell an AuRa apart from a far sometimes).
    Plus for all we know actual playable Viera could look a bit different from Fran and closer to their concept arts. And we don't even know how tall they'll actually be yet.
    Well, there are a lot of ways to make a bipedal race stand out, and be unique. Even WoW does it better with Draenei.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Well, there are a lot of ways to make a bipedal race stand out, and be unique. Even WoW does it better with Draenei.
    That's true (I actually love Draenei so much), but sadly SE isn't Blizzard
    Just trying to see it from a point where there is no way of making something like animal-like feet and features that would need their own models of gear cuz we all know that's not gonna happen :'(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    That's true (I actually love Draenei so much), but sadly SE isn't Blizzard
    Just trying to see it from a point where there is no way of making something like animal-like feet and features that would need their own models of gear cuz we all know that's not gonna happen :'(
    I wish it would. Couldn't they just remove the shoes, or something simple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    The ears are something I have concerns about; specifically with hats, hoods and helmets. Will they stick out through hat/helmet holes, will they clip through them or worse, be confined in "ear socks?"
    Or even more worse, will they be lazy and just hide them completely (removing the one thing that would make them easy to tell what they are)?
    Oh god, I'm gonna flip something if I see ear socks on such big ears. I'd rather have them clip through than that x_x
    It would be cool if with a hat or some hats they'd just put their ears down like droopy ears or something like that.
    I still don't understand why some hats make Miqo'te ears disappear :/


    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I wish it would. Couldn't they just remove the shoes, or something simple?
    Oh yeah, that would be a nice solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I wish it would. Couldn't they just remove the shoes, or something simple?
    I think players could get a lot of mileage out of SE making a number of shoes with differing varations as you want to see them (emphasis on the unique feet apperance), and then players may glamour over shoes that dont have the desired look.


    Or if the visual difference is significant a sort of headgear toggle but for your shoes lol. Both of those should work, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    I'm fairly certain that Viera's ears won't look anywhere near the Gold Saucer bunny ears and it will be something to make them stand out and pretty easy to spot in a crowd, much more than cats and lizards (I myself can't tell an AuRa apart from a far sometimes).
    Plus for all we know actual playable Viera could look a bit different from Fran and closer to their concept arts. And we don't even know how tall they'll actually be yet.
    The ears are something I have concerns about; specifically with hats, hoods and helmets. Will they stick out through hat/helmet holes, will they clip through them or worse, be confined in "ear socks?"
    Or even more worse, will they be lazy and just hide them completely (removing the one thing that would make them easy to tell what they are)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    They're talking about how they look overall. Most playable races in this game are all different flavours of humans, with only a couple being able to tell what they are at a quick glance(...)
    I'm sorry, but the only way something wouldn't be a "flavor of human" would be if they weren't humanoid at all. Even monkeys are a "flavor of humans". Their difference is tails (Miqo'te and Au'ra have tails as well), fur, mouth and a hunched back posture. Au'ra instead of fur have limited scales and in place of different mouth they have horns. Miqo'te have only their ears though.

    Roegadyn is actually the second most human of all the races (behind Hyur, duh). It have literally zero anatomical differences from a human. It's big, but there are big humans as well. It's muscular...yeah. The only possible difference is that Roegadyn are both at once...something that is really, really rare in humans as our biology makes significant height a health hazard. Not something that you want to deal with when lifting hundredths of kilograms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Au Ra could have been way better if SE went with the dragon/demon concept art(...)
    Well, I can agree here. If the dragon-like concept art was implemented I wouldn't be a Miqo'te. But cannot help the "moe" culture in a Japanese game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    The two are very similar in appearance if you don't look hard enough, or angle the camera a certain way).
    I'm sorry, but I can see the difference between the races at a distance from just about any angle, except if they have glamour that covers them significantly. The differences are really large. More important, even the faces are different. Each race have their own facial structure, and by facial structure I mean their eyes positioning, shape, the shape of face etc. Even if you remove the ears and leave only the outline of a face you can tell which race a character belongs to.

    Point is, you wouldn't even tell a difference between a human and an ixal if the latter wore heavy armor or robes. Humanoid is humanoid. And the current races do not have significant differences (other than Lalafells), but they are clear and all-around enough to make them "varied races"...or rather species. Race is a difference between highlander and midlander.
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