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  1. #21
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    I must agree that I'm not a fan of their decision to postpone the release of Blue Mage by a week. I can understand how releasing everything at once can be overwhelming, but presenting content upfront gives players a choice. If you want to focus on the main scenario first and worry about Blue Mage the following week, you are free to do so. For those who are eager to try out Blue Mage, they can choose to do that before focusing on the story.

    It would be one thing if they said that Blue Mage wasn't ready to be shipped out yet, but they flat out said that it's ready. And since it is ready, I would prefer to let players choose what content they want to work on first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    Second, lets say you're someone that is mostly excited about one particular piece of content: like Blue Mage or Eureka. Now instead of getting your most anticipated content on patch day you instead have to wait for sometimes weeks, while other players are getting their most anticipated item right away. I'd rather we just get all of the patch's content at once and be able to play them in whatever order we wish instead of getting that order dictated for us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    If you want to focus on the main scenario first and worry about Blue Mage the following week, you are free to do so. For those who are eager to try out Blue Mage, they can choose to do that before focusing on the story.

    It would be one thing if they said that Blue Mage wasn't ready to be shipped out yet, but they flat out said that it's ready. And since it is ready, I would prefer to let players choose what content they want to work on first.
    These are my thoughts exactly. I was really looking forward to jumping on BLU the moment the patch dropped, and dip my toes into the other things a few days later. I suppose it's better for it to be pushed back a week as opposed to, say, a month, but still. I'm not a huge fan of this recent trend of SE staggering content, and I'm sure I speak for plenty of people when I say I know how to pace myself and not burn through new content. If people want to do that, then that's their prerogative. I can understand pushing content back in order to fine-tune it (which was the impression I got when they were staggering the releases of things like Eureka and HoH), but if it's good to go and ready to be released, then I see no reason for them not to.

    Edit: Also more staggered content = more maintenance periods to implement said content. Why would anyone want this.
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    Last edited by Destati; 12-22-2018 at 02:02 PM.

  3. #23
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    A few replies seems to mistakenly think that I am complaining about the cost of the subscription.

    However, this is not the case the cost of the subscription is irrelevant, the timing of when you subscribe affects when you can try out different content.

    So if I am a person that pays month to month, I could have less value from my subscription just because I subscribed on the 7th of the month however every patch ends up being released on the 8th of a month.

    This causes a problem for me to feel as if my subscription is not being used to produce new content or on the other hand if my subscription ends on the day of a patch it feel that my money is being utilized to create less and less content. and this makes me as a customer feel cheated and robbed.

    My request is that the producer and development team inquire more with the community as to what kind of content should be staggered , and when it should be staggered, rather than making the decision on their own and having the players suffer for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimzunAeoun View Post
    We do not want content to be staggered by release
    Please don't say "We". If players are unhappy about anything in the game , they can make their voices heard themselves, please don't speak for everyone because opinions will vary greatly as some of the posters in this thread have been quite vocal about.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimzunAeoun View Post
    The problem I am talking about is an actual problem because the players are missing out on content because it is staggered
    No one is missing out on content because it's staggered. They are missing out on content for other reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimzunAeoun View Post
    and therefore they may unsubscribe.
    Either they will unsubscribe anyway (just after doing the content) or they won't unsubscribe (thus they will still do the content, but later).

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimzunAeoun View Post
    This is a problem that needs to be addressed by not staggering content when it is not necessary to do so.
    It is necessary to do. If not for this staggering, the content on patch would be "devoured" by some people in a frightening pace, they then would cry that they want new content, create bad press etc.


    Reality is very simple. If you want all the content to be released at once then you are fine with staying behind. Because you will on something. You can only do one thing at a time after all. If that is the case, what is the difference between you doing that content on, say, January 1 to 31 and then unsubscribing until next patch, or unsubscribing now until, say, March, then do all the content released between now and March in March 1 to 31?! Logically speaking there is zero practical difference. It is 100% impatience. But what you suggested, there's a problem with that. If they will release in a staggered manner, there will be ~1-2 months of content "life". If they release in a non-staggered manner, there will be ~5-6 months of content "life". In other words, it's all in your head. There is no practical or financial difference for a consumer between staggering and "all in your face" reason, except the fact that the first allows person to keep up with everyone at all times in everything, and the other one does not.
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    Last edited by kikix12; 12-22-2018 at 10:08 AM.

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    Most replies in forums tend to be players that pick one line or word just to disagree with the post.

    Then they do not comment on the overall topic , thus you are not contributing to the topic at hand. Please elaborate
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  7. #27
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    @kikix12 The rate at which players consume content is not an issue, it is not an actual problem. An actual problem is we as players cant do content because it is not released.

    Going forward into future patches there is content that may be delayed for "non-pertinent" reasons that can affect your gameplay experience and expectations.

    Such as blue mage, which is advertised as "solo-play" content. Why does "solo player content" have to be delayed due to MSQ which also has an amount of "solo-play" to it. These two pieces of content should NOT affect each other so drastically that 1 must be delayed to supplement the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimzunAeoun View Post
    @kikix12 The rate at which players consume content is not an issue, it is not an actual problem. An actual problem is we as players cant do content because it is not released.

    Going forward into future patches there is content that may be delayed for "non-pertinent" reasons that can affect your gameplay experience and expectations.

    Such as blue mage, which is advertised as "solo-play" content. Why does "solo player content" have to be delayed due to MSQ which also has an amount of "solo-play" to it. These two pieces of content should NOT affect each other so drastically that 1 must be delayed to supplement the other.
    Actually...the way content has been consumed, yes, it has been a problem that has been stressed out a lot. Staggering content is something of a necessary evil right now because a lot of the playerbase gobbles up content incredibly fast. There's really not enough fresh content as is that will last between patches (Eureka is its own other mess that I won't dive into right now). I mean, shoot, staggered content as it is now is still leaving droughts between patches with a lot of people having nothing to do. Your suggestion to stop the staggering will only make that in-between drought come faster. To each their own, as the saying goes, but removing the staggering schedule will probably create more problems than leaving it in place.

    What the devs do need to do, however, is actually put in content that actually engages the playerbase and make those droughts go away - but that's a discussion for another thread.
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  9. #29
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    It already takes months to get patches at all. Having a few things held back a couple weeks is barely a big deal, we're still going to get a mega patch to begin and give us *plenty* of content and things to do.

    Waiting another week honestly is not so bad at all, I'd honestly prefer we wait a week until savage drops whenever we get a new tier so I didn't have to skip everything else and RUSH through normalscape just to be able to run savage that night with my group.
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  10. #30
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    @Kaivac I disagree the way content is consumed isnt a problem because you as a player want to play the game.

    The longevity of the content is a different issue.

    Where as here we have Blue mage being released that could have a longevity we are not used to as players, and it is being delayed without player approval.

    I dont want to wait another week because I as well as you have paid for this content to be released in a timely consistent manner.
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