[Spoilers] The Patch 4.5 Lore Discussion Thread!

[Alleo]

I kinda wonder if Varis even knows what will happen to humanity once everything is back as it was before the split, because I really doubt that most of the people would still be alive. First we would need quite a few catastrophes to combine the shards into the source world and in the end none of the shards should still be there (because they didnt exist before the split) thus a huge unknown amount of life is killed..I doubt that we would go that route. (And again how would he know that it would be good for us? I fear that he just believed some lies about this)

Strange how only a few leaders are meeting with him (or the rest is very well hidden in scene), could it be that the alliance is split in their opinion about how to handle it? Hien also seems to be a bit strange? Holding Alisaie like that, his "dark" looks..

At least the story seems to be interesting but why do we need to have it split. The wait will be bad if its truly good.

In germany the voice that talks at the beginning sounds a bit like Arbert yet still different and his laugh at the end with the mother crystal sounds again like him but also not..its a bit strange. (And his laugh does not sound like from someone that is good..its sounding quite "evil") Varis was talking at the scene with the meeting, at least that sounds a lot like his german voice.

[Berethos]

Strange how only a few leaders are meeting with him (or the rest is very well hidden in scene), could it be that the alliance is split in their opinion about how to handle it?

Well hidden, for the most part (though Kan-E-Senna, Hien, and Aymeric aren't visible, so no indication if they are or aren't present).

You can see the feet of Raubahn and Lyse to Nanamo's left, which matches the screen on the patch site.

What is also super interesting? Alisaie to her right...and the WoL mostly just out of frame. For a brief moment you can just see the hem of the Samurai AF gear.