Duty finder issues

[AdrenKael]

It's slightly different. What you're referring to is that, for example, when I queue up in Leveling Roulette at lv70 I'm agreeing to help people doing the lv15 dungeon or any leveling dungeon all the way up...and could get anything as low as Satasha.

What he's talking about is when EVERYBODY in the group is at a higher level they're still getting stuff like Satasha, which in that instance admittedly makes less sense (but does happen).

Exactly It REALLY needs to put you into a dungeon that is suitable for the lowest level in the group not putting 4 level 55's in sastasha since the xp gain in that dungeon is... somewhat lacking when compared to Aurum Vale or The Aery. Or even worse is when all 4 are level 60 and above and it puts you into The Bowl of Embers.... Poor DPS it's a total waste of a leveling queue, albeit you still get the daily bonus but still...

[Ilan]

Yep. I've queue for leveling roulette before and got Ifrit, Garuda and Titan normal on more than one occasion. People just have to accept that it's a possibility. If they can't...well, roulettes aren't for them.

Oh yes the beloved baby primals...i always facepalm if i get them when i level something. On the other hand they are quickly done if you compare it to several dungeons in that level range.

[Vahlnir]

Exactly It REALLY needs to put you into a dungeon that is suitable for the lowest level in the group not putting 4 level 55's in sastasha since the xp gain in that dungeon is... somewhat lacking when compared to Aurum Vale or The Aery. Or even worse is when all 4 are level 60 and above and it puts you into The Bowl of Embers.... Poor DPS it's a total waste of a leveling queue, albeit you still get the daily bonus but still...

But...it's leveling roulette. Look at all the possibilities listed under that category. There's a ton. Don't like it? Don't queue.

[AdrenKael]

People just have to accept that it's a possibility. If they can't...well, roulettes aren't for them.

My only qualm with this is it would take very few lines of code to change it. It's not much more complicated then if (var = ( int)). I know WHY they don't, increase in server stress, but to say just don't queue I can't agree with. Especially when a more streamlined queue is only a few lines of code away.

[Vahlnir]

My only qualm with this is it would take very few lines of code to change it. It's not much more complicated then if (var = ( int)). I know WHY they don't, increase in server stress, but to say just don't queue I can't agree with. Especially when a more streamlined queue is only a few lines of code away.

It's a simple solution. Don't like it? Don't do it. That's really all that needs to be said. I don't think it's really about server stress. They want to keep lower level content active. The ARR and HW relics were proof of this. So...again, if it's an issue then don't take part in it.

[Catwho]

The bonus at the end is supposed to make up for the lower level.

You'll get a middling bonus when you're in a level 51 dungeon at level 53. But you'll get a giant chunk, at least a third of a level, if you land in baby Stash.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

The bonus at the end is supposed to make up for the lower level.

You'll get a middling bonus when you're in a level 51 dungeon at level 53. But you'll get a giant chunk, at least a third of a level, if you land in baby Stash.

Yep. My old FC leader used to have us take at least one low-level job/class so we would get ARR dungeons. And Sastasha was the goal (even though we'd sometimes que with all members at lvl 68/69 and still get it). I get what the OP is saying though. If you're in a pre-formed party (Full Light), then getting stuff like Sastasha is kind of a downer, even with the larger EXP bonus. I'm hoping that in 5.0 they add a Maximum Average toggle that allows Full-Light parties to get a dungeon based on the lowest level character. Because the random thing is moot when you're fully preformed--you're not filling a slot. I feel like this would jump-start using the Party Finder for Roulettes again instead of those tags just being for ads.

[kikix12]

Exactly It REALLY needs to put you into a dungeon that is suitable for the lowest level in the group not putting 4 level 55's in sastasha since the xp gain in that dungeon is... somewhat lacking when compared to Aurum Vale or The Aery.

You get about the same amount of experience from EVERY leveling roulette, wherever you end up.

The total of mob experience + bonus experience is always going to come close to the threshold they decided for the leveling roulette to give by means of changing the bonus experience amount. In other words, the only time doing the leveling roulette is a waste of time if you end up in low level dungeon is if you never actually finish it...but then you just wasted time in queue, not the leveling roulette run.

Because the random thing is moot when you're fully preformed--you're not filling a slot. I feel like this would jump-start using the Party Finder for Roulettes again instead of those tags just being for ads.

Except they don't want that. If people could manipulate what they get in the leveling roulette, people would manipulate what they get in it. And if they did then it would slowly stop serving its purpose. Right now there's not much of importance in whether you are preformed or not. All you need is one tank or healer in party for fast queue and there's little incentive to look for other people. You'd just be wasting time that could serve better to run through the dungeon. But if pre-made parties could avoid unwanted dungeons, people would find it valuable enough to waste 10-15 minutes looking for people to do it with, thus taking all of those people away from the queue. Less and less people would fill up the slots for queues that need them.


Also, seriously people. Learn what is the meaning of "roulette". Do you go to casinos and say "hey, this roulette, you should make sure it's only going in black because that's all I want to bet on"? No. The ball can fall in any of the boxes with equal chances. That's the whole point of a roulette. That's the whole point of the duty finder roulettes being called roulettes.

[AdrenKael]

It's a simple solution. Don't like it? Don't do it. That's really all that needs to be said. I don't think it's really about server stress. They want to keep lower level content active. The ARR and HW relics were proof of this. So...again, if it's an issue then don't take part in it.

The older content is still alive by the people leveling up new classes, new players etc. I have NO problems going into a sastasha run with a tank, healer or dps who needs it for the story or the mob xp. I've volunteered so many times to heal or tank queue for FC mates who need it even though I was queuing as a level 50 or 60+ and he needs sastasha or Copperbell or Garuda. No problems doing that at all and we're not talking about that. We're talking about a way to fix something that is an issue yet you're saying don't fix just ignore it. That's NOT a solution that's just ignoring the problem. Simply fixing it to where if the whole group the DF pairs you with is 50+ you get queued into the highest level dungeon that the weakest member qualifies for. It doesn't do that. A whle group of 50+ members can be put into sastasha even though no one needs it. If you're doing it as tank/healer for the daily bonus and you're in a group of all 50's and it tosses you into garuda norm that's dumb. Especially when it's easily fixable. Hope that clears up your confusion as to the reason why I have an issue with it.

[SannaR]

Hey now don't knock the 3 story mode baby primals I had a friend level twice off of Ifrit once. Also if you really want to eek out all the xp in a place then clear it out, use food, squadron xp scrolls, xp accessories if you happen to get something where they'd kick in. Heck I've ran Hakkue Manor so many times that I know that if you're X levels above the cap you have to clear the whole place out to come close to leveling if not actually get a level in there. Does it suck when you're lv 68 and you get Cutters Cry for the fourth time that week? Very much. Should there be tweaks to the system? Probably. Will we see it any time soon? Probably not and the best thing we can hope for is that it'll change in 5.0.