Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

The Lost City of Ampador (Hard). Leveling my Dark Knight, im in my artifact level 60 gear with some shire accessories. I am having a bit of trouble keeping emnity wit hthe red mage/samurai. I can hold it, but I have to keep to an emnity rotation most of the fights. I ask the Dps if they can use diversion. This starts a literal sh*t storm with the SAM. I get called sh*t, etc. (the usual).. So, I just let him have the aggro since he wants it so bad. At this point the SAM refuses to do anything, and just afks while talking poop he even starts getting aggressive with the healer, and the healer literally said and did nothing to them! Tells the rest of the party either kick him, or kick me. We get to the last boss, he gets teleported to the fight and suicides in aoe. We 3 manned it. The Red Mage still wasn't using diversion. I managed but it wasn't optimal.

I didn't know asking a dps to use diversion was such an issue!

It shouldn't be. The fact that you asked instead of just berating the team or shirking into compliance makes you a better tank than the ones that do the latter. The team should have already been adjusting to your gear level (you said artifact gear, right? The i200 stuff?) because especially if they were in better gear, you likely would have been playing tug of war even if you went full tank stance and aggro combos. There's a few pages of debate over this, but there's a lot of us out there that aren't on a optimized rotation; myself included (though I'm certainly more self-aware now XD). Your SAM was still out of line. A) Because he was toxic and B) because even if he wasn't willing to use Diversion, he should have still been prepared to do whatever was necessary to get through the duty and he made it very clear that he wasn't. (There's other things you can do to manage aggro, Diversion is just one of the easiest).

You communicated with your team. You made it work. The closer you get to high-end, the more you'll see people doing the optimal as the norm I just... wouldn't expect it too much in the lower end stuff. Sorry you had to deal with that. :/

[BiffWellington]

I ran Keeper of the Lake a few nights ago. The other players were all great! That Gunship boss, though... he really had it in for me at one point. He targeted me with one of his AoE fire circles. No big deal; I ran out of it.

And he dropped another one on me just as I got out of it. I kept moving in the same direction.

He dropped a third one on me, followed in turn by a fourth. I just kept moving. Then he swooped toward me and surrounded that last circle with a perfect ring of more circles. I couldn't get out of all that fire in time and I died. I went down shooting, though, like a good Highlander.

The healer saw it all happen and said, "oh no lol" before running over to raise me. Yeah, that was a fitting response. It was a really good run, overall; the final boss gave us a little trouble at first, but everyone remained patient and we achieved a satisfying victory on our third attempt. I think we were all sprouts, too, which just made it all even better.

[tinythinker]

After a few weeks of vacation... my old nemesis emerged.

The-dungeon-that-shall-not-be-named.

One wipe on the last pack by the big hammers. Too many adds plus a wicked dot plus already had to spend my OGCDs. I need to make a mental note to just heal there because I can't always cancel a dps spell if the tank's health goes south super-fast.

And as to mechanics boss, I would have passed all three trials for the first time ever! But a new-to-dungeon player moved at the last second with the circle things.

Other than that no problems.

And I was pretty much, *shrug... OK* about it.

Still waiting for that totally clean run, though.


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Then in MSQ got a group from Matteus.

As an example of the run, during the first battle with the Ultima Weapon one of them kept track of our progress thusly:

"Gaius just had the wind knocked outa him! ;D"

"Titan just got grounded! ;D"

"Ifrit just got fired! ;D"

Meanwhile I was practicing melee positionals at each boss on WHM.

[MetalSnakeXI1]

Don't worry, I'll head up that organisation.




Cut me a deal, and when they mature properly, and the harvest is ready, I will be sure to put some to the side for you

*screams in lala and terror*

No wonder the Garleans call you savages xD

[Meillquei]

Wanted to share a positive run I had the other day!

Queued for leveling roulette as BLM and ended up in Darkhold. The tank was a sprout who was new to the dungeon. There was also a mentor monk and a SCH healing.

The mentor monk lived up to his crown, constantly jumping in to help guide the tank every step of the way. The SCH also chimed in with advice whenever he could.

It ended up being a very smooth and pleasant run, in fact it was one of the fastest runs of that dungeon I've had. So to that group, thanks for making it a great run!

[Cincierta]

I really do wonder about people sometimes in duty finder.

Just had a mentor bard in Stone Vigil while I was trying to level up an alt that I had to remind them twice to not be afraid to use songs. The entire run they used their dots, and had heavy/straight shot spam. Nothing else. Had a full 70 blue set (I didn't quite catch the name of it, but it looked like an omega gearset), a full anima bow, and almost everything at 70. The newbie ninja we had was doing far more damage than her.

My bard died on the inside.

[SturmChurro]

It shouldn't be. The fact that you asked instead of just berating the team or shirking into compliance makes you a better tank than the ones that do the latter. The team should have already been adjusting to your gear level (you said artifact gear, right? The i200 stuff?) because especially if they were in better gear, you likely would have been playing tug of war even if you went full tank stance and aggro combos. There's a few pages of debate over this, but there's a lot of us out there that aren't on a optimized rotation; myself included (though I'm certainly more self-aware now XD). Your SAM was still out of line. A) Because he was toxic and B) because even if he wasn't willing to use Diversion, he should have still been prepared to do whatever was necessary to get through the duty and he made it very clear that he wasn't. (There's other things you can do to manage aggro, Diversion is just one of the easiest).

You communicated with your team. You made it work. The closer you get to high-end, the more you'll see people doing the optimal as the norm I just... wouldn't expect it too much in the lower end stuff. Sorry you had to deal with that. :/

Yeah, I wasn't having an issue actually tanking. I could tank the damage even on large mobs very easily, but there was a lot of dps creeping on my threat. I complimented the healer, so that's probably why they took it out on the healer at one point. The majority of the fight I was having do the regular emnity combo. I was telling the SAM, if you use diversion we can put more damage on the boss since I would be able to do slightly more damage. It's as if I insulted them or something. I have no idea how something can devolve so fast over nothing!

[MetalSnakeXI1]

I really do wonder about people sometimes in duty finder.

Just had a mentor bard in Stone Vigil while I was trying to level up an alt that I had to remind them twice to not be afraid to use songs. The entire run they used their dots, and had heavy/straight shot spam. Nothing else. Had a full 70 blue set (I didn't quite catch the name of it, but it looked like an omega gearset), a full anima bow, and almost everything at 70. The newbie ninja we had was doing far more damage than her.

My bard died on the inside.

I have no idea why a bard would EVER not use a song cuz Mage's Ballad eases the process of killing dungeon mobs tremendously when u combine it with Rain of Dead and can be a decent uptime increaser for the bard's rotation with Bloodletter.Heck I dunno why they'd never use Wanderer's Minuet against bosses cuz the amount of damage u can deal with 3 stack Pitch Perfect(especially with an AST casting spear on you) can be insane.Heck I had a time where I dealt close to 60K damage firing three 3 stacks pitch perfects in a row,not to mention the Troubledour effect for WM which increases the party's defense against magic based attacks by 20%

[Neophyte]

In Stone Vigil a BRD has Mages Ballad and Armys Paoen, but no WM/pitch perfect, nor Rain of Death (that's lvl 45).

It's wrong to not use them, sure, but in such a low dungeon, he only lost bloodletter procs and the increased speed of AP.

That BRD just didn't use Quick Nock obviously.

[Driskus]

Decided to do leveling as healer in need for the extra cluster and got a brand-new DRK who's never tanked before, and had mostly DoH/DoL gear on the left side. The dungeon was Brayflox of course. We somehow cleared, but I had to spend like 95% of the time healing and was only able to toss out the occasional Aero or Stone if I was really lucky. Of course that was the only gear he had.