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  1. #261
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    Skos's Avatar
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    Tater Thot
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    Machinist Lv 70
    I don't get it. Like, I really don't get why this is so hard to understand.
    Nobody's angry about Blue Mage being added to the game. Nobody's being angry about Blue Mage actually having to learn skills from enemies. Nobody's angry about the Blue Carnival being added to the game.

    We're angry about Limited Jobs. They shouldn't exist. Why can't we have both a fully functional job AND the BLU learning experience/Blue Carnival? Why does it have to be one way or the other?
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  2. #262
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    HyperiusUltima's Avatar
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    Eileen White
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Skos View Post
    I don't get it. Like, I really don't get why this is so hard to understand.
    Nobody's angry about Blue Mage being added to the game. Nobody's being angry about Blue Mage actually having to learn skills from enemies. Nobody's angry about the Blue Carnival being added to the game.

    We're angry about Limited Jobs. They shouldn't exist. Why can't we have both a fully functional job AND the BLU learning experience/Blue Carnival? Why does it have to be one way or the other?
    Because you could wind up skewing the raid tier. Sure, the tier may be done with, but it’s still there. You can’t just insert new job X without considering how it’ll effect the rest of its counterparts. If the job becomes too strong, we’ll be seeing BLU instead of SMN, and Casters have it hard as is with SMN doing decent damage and being mobile.
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  3. #263
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Skos View Post
    I don't get it. Like, I really don't get why this is so hard to understand.
    Nobody's angry about Blue Mage being added to the game. Nobody's being angry about Blue Mage actually having to learn skills from enemies. Nobody's angry about the Blue Carnival being added to the game.

    We're angry about Limited Jobs. They shouldn't exist. Why can't we have both a fully functional job AND the BLU learning experience/Blue Carnival? Why does it have to be one way or the other?
    simply balance.

    edit: if you unlock it for savage it would be like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrjjuwkhygk
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    Last edited by Neela; 12-18-2018 at 11:22 PM.

  4. #264
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Neela View Post
    simply balance.

    edit: if you unlock it for savage it would be like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrjjuwkhygk
    By this logic we shouldn't have any jobs, because all of them can be forking broken in a single player game.
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  5. #265
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    TheHeavenAbyss's Avatar
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    Lluw Tharias
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I don't think the problem that SE is having with Blue Mage is so much about the skills being OP (some could be OP even for solo), as much as it is about having the collectability aspect in Blue Mage's skills (and the fact that some Blue Mages could be kicked from duty if they didn't have certain skills). Not saying the skills being OP couldn't be an issue, but that's something that is way easier to fix and adjust, in my opinion.
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  6. #266
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    Astarotha's Avatar
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    Astaroth Karnaim
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 80
    while i think having a beta test period to make sure none of the abilities break the game when you hand them to random players doing things randomly is a great idea (and thank you devs if thats the case), if i truly wanted to i could take a full job from 1 to 70 and never do any of the class quests. does this mean that all base classes should be barred from all group content (even stasha) until they have their job stone equipped and all job quests done? no, ive seen a puggalist in dun before and they did mechanics flawlessly and didnt die, and nobody tried to kick them because they werent monk (it was actually kind of hilarious to most of us)

    the point is blue can totally be balanced for df, and worrying about "THE META!!!" group or that asshole tank who will dc because the bard has too much tp left after the first pull in mocihm (yes this actually happened) are not the kind of players you want to elevate to half the reason blue mage shouldnt be allowed to use df
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  7. #267
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    Starcake28's Avatar
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    Julis Slivers
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Because you could wind up skewing the raid tier. Sure, the tier may be done with, but it’s still there. You can’t just insert new job X without considering how it’ll effect the rest of its counterparts. If the job becomes too strong, we’ll be seeing BLU instead of SMN, and Casters have it hard as is with SMN doing decent damage and being mobile.
    Wrong there looking at ppl tht will not farm spells thy will join content with 5 spells and there lvl 50 but whn u look at tht its still stupid to say tht whn u can have a block to content like have a limit to how many spells you need to join tht mission also there looking at blue mage will not be using tht stupid rotation combo system thy have in game
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    Last edited by Starcake28; 12-19-2018 at 04:09 AM.

  8. #268
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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    i'd love if BLU could fill any of the 3 roles depending on which set of spells they equipped. The game could really make having certain spells prerequisites for queueing. Also, for sure there would be more than enough slots to fill every blue magic available out there.
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  9. #269
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    Starcake28's Avatar
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    Julis Slivers
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Astarotha View Post
    while i think having a beta test period to make sure none of the abilities break the game when you hand them to random players doing things randomly is a great idea (and thank you devs if thats the case), if i truly wanted to i could take a full job from 1 to 70 and never do any of the class quests. does this mean that all base classes should be barred from all group content (even stasha) until they have their job stone equipped and all job quests done? no, ive seen a puggalist in dun before and they did mechanics flawlessly and didnt die, and nobody tried to kick them because they werent monk (it was actually kind of hilarious to most of us)

    the point is blue can totally be balanced for df, and worrying about "THE META!!!" group or that asshole tank who will dc because the bard has too much tp left after the first pull in mocihm (yes this actually happened) are not the kind of players you want to elevate to half the reason blue mage shouldnt be allowed to use df
    Blue mage will not do anything to the game but help it what will break the game it them not understaning blue mage.. Again look at all blue mage past history thy can be balance
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  10. #270
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    Starcake28's Avatar
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    Julis Slivers
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    Samurai Lv 67
    True but at the in of the day you will still be a dps just like all other FF games your not a tank if you Can't pull hate and keep it better yet get hate from all mobs meaning a spell or ability tht let you get all mobs too attack you
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    Last edited by Starcake28; 12-19-2018 at 04:17 AM.

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