Is it wrong to run Castrum Abania as a tank at ilvl 272

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Is it against any rules? No. Unfortunately, Leveling dungeons have no ilvl restriction. Therefore, you can be woefully undergeared. That being said, if I saw full Shire gear in Castrum Abania, I'd likely kick you. Sorry, but I have no interest essentially being a full time healer since if I even look at DPSing, you'll keel over. Likewise, it's equally tedious for both DPS and the healer since you'll have to do small pulls just to stay alive.

[Fynlar]

Levelling dungeons do not have minimum ilevel. Would you think it was ok if your healer is in something like ilvl 25 gear? Since that's queueable as well.

Thing is, i270 isn't really low for any of the SB leveling dungeons. Like, at all. There isn't even really that much room for improvement before level 70.

What you're suggesting as a comparison isn't even remotely comparable.

[SakurazukaSeishirou]

I main healer and I would kick you as soon as I could. Not becuase I can't heal you or can't be bothered (though it is partially true) but because it is stupid and disrespectful - you essentially wasting our time by making us go extremely slow and/or waiting for another tank.
I might do an exeption for a complete novice in this situation but not at level 69 duty.

[Turnipsi]

Thing is, i270 isn't really low for any of the SB leveling dungeons. Like, at all. There isn't even really that much room for improvement before level 70.

What you're suggesting as a comparison isn't even remotely comparable.

Where to draw the line? Because it's completely arbitrary and mainly aimed for the excuse of "well, the game let's me so it's fine". That was literally it, not breaking ToS by doing it. However, game let's anything for those.

Have you actually looked at the stats for Bardam onwards gear? The jump is way bigger than differences later on. The difference between 270 HW gear and crafted 68 gear alone almost doubles defense. For a tank, this is very noticeable. Substats are less inflated, although that 20 gain on mainstat does show on dps.

[Laphael]

Thing is, i270 isn't really low for any of the SB leveling dungeons. Like, at all. There isn't even really that much room for improvement before level 70.

You are wrong, especially tanks need to be careful with gear for lvls 65-70.
See this great post below for numbers

This is absolutely 100% WRONG.

If you kept the Shire gear all the way to 70, you'd have 2286 Defense while doing so. Roughly 29,991 hp from gear from 1463 Vit.

Compared to a tank that took the HQ quest gear literally given to you while leveling. Or equipped any gear that was given to you automatically when you completed a SB dungeon. They'd have 3828 Defense. 31,918 HP on gear from 1557 Vit. They have 67.45% more defense than you do. That means you'll take a ton more damage from every single hit every trash mob does to you. All the Vit in the world doesn't mean anything when mobs are taking chunks out of your HP pool instead of nibbles.

Just for reference: The Defense gain from 310 to 380 is LESS than the defense gain from 270-285. It's an 18% jump in defense from 310 to 380.

So no. Do your healers a favor and upgrade your darn gear so you don't melt during dungeon trash pulls.

To OP. Is it wrong to be in CA at 272. In my opinion yes it is, but that's just my opinion. Just realize you're making your healers life really hard to keep you alive if you do decent sized pulls.

[HyoMinPark]

I only suggested i270 Augmented Shire Gear as a reasonable baseline for SB leveling dungeons. Back in Heavensward, we didn't have the "automatic item drop from beating the last boss" thing. Having item level 120-130 would be reasonable enough for the HW leveling dungeons, especially having the latter.

To address this, when The Vault and Gubal Library were current, Poetics gear—even Augmented—weren’t enough for those two dungeons. Especially The Vault. That place was no pushover when it was relevant, and could easily truck a tank in i120~i130.

To OP, tanking Castrum Abania in i270 is not acceptable in my opinion. I’ve dealt with tanks at that item level as a healer (leveling and synced), and it is a royal pain to deal with, especially if they want to pull like the Big Boys and ignore CDs. The defense and vitality gains you would get even from HQ level 68 white gear upgrades are nothing to scoff at, so I would highly recommend at least upgrading your left side with HQ gear or gear from Doma Castle. Doma and Abania are the Vault and Gubal of SB, so expect them to not exactly be pushovers.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Thing is, i270 isn't really low for any of the SB leveling dungeons. Like, at all. There isn't even really that much room for improvement before level 70.

What you're suggesting as a comparison isn't even remotely comparable.

Um, yes it is. The i270 Shire tank body has 480 Defense/M-Defense compared to the 545 on the level 64 Tigerskin body piece, assuming it's HQ. The Gazelleskin body has 723 NQ—804 HQ. That is almost double the defense stats. You clearly haven't tried healing an undergeared tank before. Is it possible? Sure. I've done it. I have also dealt with undergeared healers as a tank. You're basically forced to babysit them, pull no more than three mobs and stay in tank stance even during boss fights.

[Powercow]

Thing is, i270 isn't really low for any of the SB leveling dungeons. Like, at all. There isn't even really that much room for improvement before level 70.

What you're suggesting as a comparison isn't even remotely comparable.

Technically required? Well, no, but you can also go into the dungeons with broken gear and probably be carried through most of 'em too. It's just that when a tank does it, it makes it miserable for the entire party because suddenly agro is everywhere and the healer is desperately trying to keep the lazy bum alive.

[Fynlar]

You clearly haven't tried healing an undergeared tank before.

I've leveled everything through these dungeons and run into all sorts, so yes, I have. Trust me, it's not as bad as a lot of you are trying to make it sound, both on the tanking end and the healing end. Maybe you just need to play better? :/

To address this, when The Vault and Gubal Library were current, Poetics gear—even Augmented—weren’t enough for those two dungeons. Especially The Vault. That place was no pushover when it was relevant, and could easily truck a tank in i120~i130.

Oh please.

It was perfectly fine with i130. Leveled everything through this dungeon with that gear, too. It was not hard at all.

This rampant fearmongering and elitism has got to stop. The way some of you sound, you'd have panic attacks if someone showed up in your current EX dungeon with i380 gear instead of i390.

Technically required? Well, no, but you can also go into the dungeons with broken gear and probably be carried through most of 'em too. It's just that when a tank does it, it makes it miserable for the entire party because suddenly agro is everywhere and the healer is desperately trying to keep the lazy bum alive.

This will not happen in Castrum Abania because you're in i270 gear. It will happen because you (somehow still) don't know how to tank at 69-70.

I never had this issue with i270 gear. You're misappropriating the problem.

[CorbinDallas]

I've leveled everything through these dungeons and run into all sorts, so yes, I have. Trust me, it's not as bad as a lot of you are trying to make it sound, both on the tanking end and the healing end. Maybe you just need to play better? :/

Yikes, what an incredibly condescending thing to say to people who are evidently better at the game than you. Let's tell people with ultimate clears that they need to play better, that isn't going to back fire at all.

Just because you have no problem spamming Cure 2 for 40 minutes doesn't mean it isn't an issue. Get over yourself, and don't try and talk down those who are actually good at the game, you make yourself look incredibly foolish.