Is it wrong to run Castrum Abania as a tank at ilvl 272

[Fynlar]

You clearly haven't tried healing an undergeared tank before.

I've leveled everything through these dungeons and run into all sorts, so yes, I have. Trust me, it's not as bad as a lot of you are trying to make it sound, both on the tanking end and the healing end. Maybe you just need to play better? :/

To address this, when The Vault and Gubal Library were current, Poetics gear—even Augmented—weren’t enough for those two dungeons. Especially The Vault. That place was no pushover when it was relevant, and could easily truck a tank in i120~i130.

Oh please.

It was perfectly fine with i130. Leveled everything through this dungeon with that gear, too. It was not hard at all.

This rampant fearmongering and elitism has got to stop. The way some of you sound, you'd have panic attacks if someone showed up in your current EX dungeon with i380 gear instead of i390.

Technically required? Well, no, but you can also go into the dungeons with broken gear and probably be carried through most of 'em too. It's just that when a tank does it, it makes it miserable for the entire party because suddenly agro is everywhere and the healer is desperately trying to keep the lazy bum alive.

This will not happen in Castrum Abania because you're in i270 gear. It will happen because you (somehow still) don't know how to tank at 69-70.

I never had this issue with i270 gear. You're misappropriating the problem.

[CorbinDallas]

I've leveled everything through these dungeons and run into all sorts, so yes, I have. Trust me, it's not as bad as a lot of you are trying to make it sound, both on the tanking end and the healing end. Maybe you just need to play better? :/

Yikes, what an incredibly condescending thing to say to people who are evidently better at the game than you. Let's tell people with ultimate clears that they need to play better, that isn't going to back fire at all.

Just because you have no problem spamming Cure 2 for 40 minutes doesn't mean it isn't an issue. Get over yourself, and don't try and talk down those who are actually good at the game, you make yourself look incredibly foolish.

[Turnipsi]

Flinging accusations of elitism (for wanting decent gear level in dungeon, wut?) and making hyperboles isn't really a great argument and just makes it seem you actualky have none to give. No one has asked overgearing the dungeon, just gear that's from previous dungeons/optainable before that dungeon. It's good you specifically didn't have problems, but doesn't change the situation. Like most here said, you can make it in that gear if tank and/or healer are good. But asking for decent gear given by story too isn't asking for much. Now try to refrain from personal insult attempts, please.

Reminds me, I just yesterday had a beautiful Lighthouse run with tank with 290 weapon. Sure, they made the ilevel. They also tanked nothing that run. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Powercow]

This will not happen in Castrum Abania because you're in i270 gear. It will happen because you (somehow still) don't know how to tank at 69-70.

I never had this issue with i270 gear. You're misappropriating the problem.

You had polite party members who put up with your laziness. But hey, you leveled a job once! Good for you! Maybe the gil you got from selling the gear you got from quests can buy you a pleasant attitude for group content.

[HyoMinPark]

Oh please.

It was perfectly fine with i130. Leveled everything through this dungeon with that gear, too. It was not hard at all.

This rampant fearmongering and elitism has got to stop. The way some of you sound, you'd have panic attacks if someone showed up in your current EX dungeon with i380 gear instead of i390.

LMAO. “Fearmongering”.

It’s not “fearmongering” to state facts, my dude. The HQ level 56 gear was better than the i130 Augmented Poetics, and definitely better than the i120.

It’s disrespectful to run Castrum Abania as an i260~i270 tank just as it was disrespectful to do the same with the Vault in i120~i130 when it was relevant. For clarification, we’re talking about TANKS here, not healers or DPS, though they should also be mindful of at least keeping their weapon up-to-date. Tanks need the extra VIT and defense the gear upgrades give them, especially if they’re the type of tank that doesn’t know what the Rampart button does but what to play like the Big Kids play and pull everything in sight.

Obviously, it doesn’t matter now for the Vault, because everything hits like wet noodles thanks to it being nerfed with Stormblood’s release, but it wasn’t a joke of a dungeon when it was relevant. I, too, leveled all of my jobs through it with a few exceptions—played through it on every role, from physical ranged to caster to healer and tank.

Current expert can be done in HQ i360–anything else is bonus. People hardly “freak out” or “have a panic attack” when someone shows up to The Burn in less than i380/i390 unless it’s extremely so (like i300/i310 or something of the like—i340 is rough but still manageable if you’re good). “Expert” dungeons have always been notorious for not hitting as hard as leveling dungeons thanks to the generous way they tend to sync.

It’s cute that you are the one calling us the elitists though, what with your attitude.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I've leveled everything through these dungeons and run into all sorts, so yes, I have. Trust me, it's not as bad as a lot of you are trying to make it sound, both on the tanking end and the healing end. Maybe you just need to play better? :/

I mean, I've cleared Savage and Ultimate. What have you cleared that matters?

Putting aside pointless condescension, not wanting to carry someone who couldn't be bothered to properly update their gear, thus forcing me to basically spam heal them is far different from not being able to. It's the same reason I won't spam aggro combos or sit in tank stance because a DPS refuses to manage their aggro. I can hold hate off them, I won't though.

Oh please.

It was perfectly fine with i130. Leveled everything through this dungeon with that gear, too. It was not hard at all.

This rampant fearmongering and elitism has got to stop. The way some of you sound, you'd have panic attacks if someone showed up in your current EX dungeon with i380 gear instead of i390.

No, it wasn't perfectly fine. It forced the healers to babysit tanks who couldn't be bothered to gear properly. It isn't elitism to tell people put on relevant gear nor is anyone obligated to carry these players. For someone so defensively, you may want to actually look at the comparisons you make. The difference between i380 and i390 defense wise is 25. The difference between level 60 gear and level 68 is almost 400.

You missed the swing by a country mile...

[Ilan]

IMO, item level 270 is good enough to last for all of the SB leveling dungeons. Your mileage may vary on how you time your defensive cooldowns. I've been noticing the lower quality of healers on these leveling dungeons, even with the recommended item levels or if everyone is synced to the highest possible one.

So you are stressing out healers with your low ilvl and call the ones who are not experienced enough "low quality"? I would call a tank who doesn't keep his gear up to date "extremly low quality".

I went all the way until 70 in my i270 gear (plus whatever higher dungeon bits I managed to grab, but I never stopped specifically to try to get any of it), just like I went all the way to 60 in my i130 gear. Went fine, didn't melt. I tanked too. It's like some of you think 4-man dungeons are supposed to be hard or something.

Sold the quested gear for $$ instead. Cha-ching.

You are another example of these tanks that join shit undergeared and be a hinderance for your party.

I've leveled everything through these dungeons and run into all sorts, so yes, I have. Trust me, it's not as bad as a lot of you are trying to make it sound, both on the tanking end and the healing end. Maybe you just need to play better? :/

Oh please.

It was perfectly fine with i130. Leveled everything through this dungeon with that gear, too. It was not hard at all.

This rampant fearmongering and elitism has got to stop. The way some of you sound, you'd have panic attacks if someone showed up in your current EX dungeon with i380 gear instead of i390.


This will not happen in Castrum Abania because you're in i270 gear. It will happen because you (somehow still) don't know how to tank at 69-70.

I never had this issue with i270 gear. You're misappropriating the problem.

Boi if you entered the Vault in 130 gear when it was actual content you got ripped another butthole from those mobs.

If you didn't had an issue with 270 gear during leveling its not because you are such a great tank its because you've got lucky and had healers who did only one thing and that was spending almost all of their mana just to keep you alive and probably dps who were geared properly. Its a big difference as a healer if you have a propper geared tank in there or a undergeared one and nothing you write will change this fact.

[Dualgunner]

I've leveled everything through these dungeons and run into all sorts, so yes, I have. Trust me, it's not as bad as a lot of you are trying to make it sound, both on the tanking end and the healing end. Maybe you just need to play better? :/

How can you be so toxic and yet not have a parser?

Oh please.

It was perfectly fine with i130. Leveled everything through this dungeon with that gear, too. It was not hard at all.

This rampant fearmongering and elitism has got to stop. The way some of you sound, you'd have panic attacks if someone showed up in your current EX dungeon with i380 gear instead of i390.

You were carried hard by your healers if you survived with i130 gear in Gubal. Also good attempt at downplaying the issue.

This will not happen in Castrum Abania because you're in i270 gear. It will happen because you (somehow still) don't know how to tank at 69-70.

I never had this issue with i270 gear. You're misappropriating the problem.

You were carried with your i270 gear. People who are good at this game can make up for people who are undergeared but that doesn't make it suddenly okay to be undergeared.