[QUOTE=galbsadi;4838882]So I play several MMOs....WoW, SWTOR, FFXIV, ESO, used to play TERA, have dabbled in Neverwinter, LOTRO, and others.

Big things I like in MMOs that make them extra great:
- Story, story, story

Things that aren't 'dealmakers' but I like:
- Crafting systems - FFXIV is king here

Okay, I too have played many MMO's:
UO - LOTOR - GW2 - SWTOR - ESO not a big fan, I do like that there is no subscription. I will say that I didn't play it enough to give it a decent shot? Shouldn't a game pull you in from the begging?

I agree with most of what you have to say but the two issues listed above!

SWTOR - The individual Story lines for each individual class is the best I've ever seen. The Imperil Agent story line is epic! There are 8 classes and each class has its very own very unique individual story line. I also like that each of my 8 charters have voices and options to respond. It’s very emissive, you really get sucked into the story. Also holding a lightsaber is pretty cool, and using the force.To me that is what made that game special, the individual stories, every MMO quests are practically the same, go talk to this guy go kill/gather this or that. Because the 8 classes individual story lines were SO unique it made replayability so much better. I felt like it was a whole new game each time I play thought because each individual class story was so unique and well done.

The worst part about SWTOR is that it looked dated on release, it’s if they used a late 90’s gaming engine. Such a shame, if SWTOR looked as good as FFXIV? Who knows.

For FFXIV I don't feel connected to the story line at all, even if you click as fast as you can they just talk to dam much. You have this "Hero of Light" that just *nods* in epic scenes, it just kill's it for me. Going from SWTOR to this is…., at least give me a White bubble with what my champion would say.. There's TO much lore I don't even know why I'm in stormblood, and honestly, I don't care.

If you want easy crafting and gathering go to SWTOR they have dozens of companions and you can send each one of them out on missions to do the gathering for you and they do the crafting for you.

GW2 it's just $$ get money unlock recip and build, grind grind grind $$$, $$$, $$$ real or in-game currency. *shrugs*

But if you think FFXIV crafting is "good" then you my friend are twisted and love torture! I agree that crafting should be more difficult then gathering or several aspects of an MMO or it wouldn't be worth it.. but this my friend is nuts.. it's just not ok!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...sCBa1IwVQ/edit

You should NEVER need a 338 page document to be able to understand crafting! PERIOD!!!!! So I would disagree with you, FFXIV does not have the best crafting.