Patch 4.5─A Requiem for Heroes Special Site Now Live

[Nihility]

Both Hyur and the Roegadyn have the same style. The Elezen has more similarities with the Au Ra.

Look again at each of the things I listed earlier.
1. The collar shape
2. The placement of metal decorations and contrast-colour edging on the chest piece
3. The shape of the belt, and the decorative pattern on it
4. The shape of the skirt
5. The pattern on the hem

6. Additionally I've noticed that each outfit has a hanging "shield" on their hip. The Elezen's is on the left hip; the other three have it on the right.



I've also noticed now that (by my reckoning of the classes) while the coat designs don't follow the usual "one design for fending/maiming, another for striking/scouting" pattern.... the gloves, boots and probably the pants do.

The Elezen and Highlander have gauntlets and long boots with metal plates on the top of the foot.

The Roegadyn and Midlander have leather gloves and short lace-up boots. They also have some kind of white skirt under the surcoat but over the pants - we'll have to wait and see which part of the outfit it's attached to, but I'm guessing it's the pants - because the Highlander doesn't have it despite being otherwise the same.



But if all this explanation doesn't convince you, then let's turn this the other way around.

What are you seeing that makes you say the Roegadyn and Elezen have the same costume? Ignore the colour. What elements of the shape are the same for those two, and different to the others? Are you just expecting that there must be two pairs of matching outfits, and not considering that there might be three with the same?

you forgot the most obvious thing.
The sleeves are completely different for each of the similar sets

the only real disappointment to me is the caster/healer just being dark and light themes of same stuff again. I thought the crest on caster was unique but i think it may just be position/color making the light one blend in

don't really expect a heck of a lot from dungeon sets personally. The devs know that to the vast majority of the player base dungeon sets are just a source of GC seals yet they still try and sometimes we get real gems

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

I like the fact that each Blue Mage skill seems to have flavor text to explain how it actually works from an aetherological standpoint.

Also, I'm glad we're getting a proper warzone as a dungeon in the Ghimlyt Dark. Ala Mhigo was something, but it didn't really demonstrate the true terror of the Empire's armies with them not being able to break out the big guns in a confined space like that.

Agreed on both counts. The new dungeon gear looks lame, though!

[Iscah]

yeah..but robes can be short as well. I suppose it's all in the words you use. I would have liked to see caster get jackets like the other classes.

The thing with "robes" is that people complain about mages getting robes because "they're too long", "they cover up my other gear", "I can't see my boots", etc etc.

If you're going to call these tunics "robes", then prettymuch everything the game can give you besides waist-length shirts is a "robe". And then people complain we get nothing but "robes" when we're getting tunics and coats and weird strappy Bonewicca outfits.

Different words suggest different shapes of clothing. A robe and a tunic are not the same thing.

And again, when in doubt, I'm off to Wikipedia.... which defines a robe as a "loose-fitting outer garment" with all its examples being long, draping clothing (the word 'gown' is used a lot). Meanwhile a tunic is a body garment "reaching from the shoulders to a length somewhere between the hips and ankles".

These are definitely tunics.

The gear looks alright. I'm okay with long tunic/coat style stuff, though looks like healers got the short end of the stick this time by having the potato preview the gear.

It's not too bad, since we can see the caster and healer are palette swaps, so you can just look at the casting gear on the Miqo'te and see what the shape of the healer set will be like as well.

(As someone mentioned earlier, they would also make really nice Christmas casual outfits! Even without being able to dye them, the healer set would work as a "snow colour scheme" design. It's a pity they're coming out in January!)

you forgot the most obvious thing.
The sleeves are completely different for each of the similar sets

I noticed, but for trying to draw similarities-and-differences between the sets it doesn't really fit into the argument. The Midlander has the single sleeve that isn't copied in any of the other sets. The Highlander has the pauldron that goes with the gauntlets, as on the tank set.

It doesn't really help for comparing them either way.

don't really expect a heck of a lot from dungeon sets personally. The devs know that to the vast majority of the player base dungeon sets are just a source of GC seals yet they still try and sometimes we get real gems

Can say that for any gear really.

I feel like part of the challenge must be coming up with designs that won't be like anything else that came before it, with the assumption that people will mix and match with pre-existing sets.

[Gralna]

I can understand people not liking the armor designs of SB, but am a bit lost on why people don't know where it's coming from. Thought it was pretty obvious that majority of it based on traditional Mongolian attire?




As for the the masked carnival, I'm excited about the allied seals. Will help me finish up my speed bonuses for ARR areas, and get the allied seal armor for my squadron. After I finish those it should be be easy to keep a healthy supply of aetheryte tickets on hand.

[Destati]

Is that meant to be sarcastic or...?

Those aren't robes. They're tunics with pants and boots clearly visible. If you consider every top that hangs below the waist to be a robe then no wonder some people think that casters get "nothing but robes." By that definition, every class in the game gets nothing but "robes."

I'm going to redact my statement. I agree, they're not robes, but they're certainly closer to robes than the other gear sets aesthetically speaking (at least to me). I suppose I'm just being salty because it's one of those times where I really wish SE would let up on the dumb glamour restrictions. I feel my character would look better in the other sets but I still want to play caster.

[SannaR]

snipy snips

Okay for just a small moment of I'm kidding what if the one everyone is calling the aiming set is really the maiming? As again SE does have a thing for dressing up all of the physical dps in the same outfit as I have stated previously except for drg because it tends to be the same as the tanks. Though they do get away from this a little in Stormblood in the leveling as most sets look the same as to fit the theme of the dungeon. Those masks really bug me as the Roe's mask matches they eye parts of the Elezen's yet the midlander's helmet is the same except the eyes are the same as the highlander. As to the white cloth I think it's part of the top as I think it's a long sleeveless tunic under their quilted coats. Unless you look at Siren Song and Doma Castle where with the former they went crazy on who had what and the later where the aiming set gets to be the special one. So yes, if one ignores the colors you are correct. Though now my liking of the gear lessens once you do add in the color factor at least for the debated two. Also now the tank top needs a neck frill.

[Nalien]

it is level 50 content so level 50 rewards make sense.
considering that list of masked carnival events in the left side we may see some serious additions to allied seals vendors with blue mage introduction

I hope they do add more to allied seals, but I expect we'll have to wait for Blue Mage to unlock Lv60+ for the reward to add centurio seals for it to be anything really worthwhile... Still, as an alternative to the awful Hunts system, it's a great addition eventually... Seems you get a first time reward like Guildhests, then every week it picks three random ones? 100 allied seals a week, just from the one labelled "Novice"? Should be pretty good, 300 seals a week, hopefully more.

Not even sure what they could add to allied seals at this point though... More Grand Company gear would be amazing (weapons for Red Mage and Samurai, equipment sets that aren't tailored solely to the classes found in their respective city-states), but then you get all that gear, and then what? I think treasure maps would be nice, I've always thought Grand Companies should give us access to those somehow, so why not allied seals? Not the current expansion maps, just the old ones that nobody wastes their 18h gathering allowance on... Would have much rather they'd done something like that, to make Aquapolis farmable again, than them adding some of the Aquapolis materials at scrip vendors...

I guess if nothing else you can convert the old weathered gear from allied seals into either desynth fodder, or Grand Company seals fodder... That's pretty much what the poetic tomestones are for at this point... You know, I do wish they'd just add something like the MGP Gold Card to some of the old vendor currencies... Take out the annoying middle part of me buying a bunch of useless gear and trading it in for Grand Company seals, just let me buy a GC Seal Card or something that automatically gives me a bunch of the seals... Would be a very welcome addition to poetics vendors and wolf marks vendors, off the top of my head...

[CorbinDallas]

I guess if nothing else you can convert the old weathered gear from allied seals into either desynth fodder, or Grand Company seals fodder... That's pretty much what the poetic tomestones are for at this point... You know, I do wish they'd just add something like the MGP Gold Card to some of the old vendor currencies... Take out the annoying middle part of me buying a bunch of useless gear and trading it in for Grand Company seals, just let me buy a GC Seal Card or something that automatically gives me a bunch of the seals... Would be a very welcome addition to poetics vendors and wolf marks vendors, off the top of my head...

This would be awesome, but at the same time allows you to circumvent the GC seal cap.

[Lunalepsy]

Oh, Blue Mage! So fun~

[SDaemon]

Looking forward to BLU! A bit disappointed with the dungeon gear except for that set on the Au Ra and maybe the Healer/Caster sets. Feeling a bit cautious with the MSQ, in the teaser trailer Thancred is awake and running around so curious to see how 4.5 and 4.55 pan out with the Scions.