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  1. #441
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyskip View Post
    Based on my own observations, the mods have been deleting BLU criticism topics under the pretense of them being 'spam'.
    Oh, have they? I suppose that's a possibility, but I've just been assuming that the stray "Look at my BLU thread! I made an opinion! This opinion was too special snowflake to go in an existing BLU thread that it needed to be post #1 in a new BLU thread!" threads just slowly slipped off into obscurity when they predictably stopped getting posting activity in lieu of posting in the more "all-encompassing" discussion threads. If they have been culling topics it's fairly justified, as I daresay majority of the recent BLU threads are just started by opinionated posters seeking to have their opinions viewed rather than "risk" their thoughts go to waste or something as random post #229 in a huge thread; even though they bring very little or nothing new to the discussion.

    Quite frankly, I'm more surprised that they didn't condense most of the BLU threads into one single thread, not unlike what happened with WHM threads after the Stormblood job adjustment previews.
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  2. #442
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    Quite frankly, I'm more surprised that they didn't condense most of the BLU threads into one single thread, not unlike what happened with WHM threads after the Stormblood job adjustment previews.
    They did, actually. Two threads, because the first one overflowed and they had to make another one to keep up with the backlash. Problem is, they eventually unpinned that thread two or three days in so it looked like it disappeared entirely. There is actually still a link to the second one in the top right but if you're not looking for it you can miss it since it isn't with the rest of the topics. It actually took me a little while to notice it was there at all though that might be the fault of my giant monitor.
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  3. #443
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    They condense stuff a lot on the JP part of the forums, so it's only natural they do so on the NA side of things on the rare occasions that they look over here. That said, I wouldn't mind it if this was the main BLU topic.
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  4. #444
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    The conversation has died down, but it certainly isn't because people have stopped caring. Many have already stated their opinion on the matter. Anywhere you look where the conversation is still going, you'll see two sides, who have already made up their minds, going around in circles.

    It is true that they can't please everyone, but I doubt that the announcement of Blue Mage as a standard job would have resulted in the same level of backlash. Would people really be saying, "this is a terrible idea. Blue Mage should be restricted from endgame content" and cause an uproar?

    The way I see it, SE chose the greater of the two evils in this scenario, but the fate of Blue Mage isn't set in stone. If there's going to be a change, it won't happen any time soon, but at the very least, I hope SE is having second thoughts about releasing a new Limited Job for 5.5.
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  5. #445
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    The conversation has died down, but it certainly isn't because people have stopped caring. Many have already stated their opinion on the matter. Anywhere you look where the conversation is still going, you'll see two sides, who have already made up their minds, going around in circles.

    It is true that they can't please everyone, but I doubt that the announcement of Blue Mage as a standard job would have resulted in the same level of backlash. Would people really be saying, "this is a terrible idea. Blue Mage should be restricted from endgame content" and cause an uproar?

    The way I see it, SE chose the greater of the two evils in this scenario, but the fate of Blue Mage isn't set in stone. If there's going to be a change, it won't happen any time soon, but at the very least, I hope SE is having second thoughts about releasing a new Limited Job for 5.5.

    Of course there wouldn´t be so much discussion, because it would just be the same as all other jobs.
    SE tried something new, and I think they chose the better of the 2 options they had and I really hope there will be more limited jobs in the future.

    On the topic of the two sides:
    I understand the dissapointement of ppl wanting to main blu mage, but its still not a reason to say things like "better not implement it at all".
    Thats the "I didn´t get what i wanted and now everyone else shouldn´t get anything at all"-attitude that really bothers me.

    I dont do ultimate and its only used by 1% of the playerbase, but i never would come up with "they should never do that again, because im not interested and want more casual content" for example.
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  6. #446
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laphael View Post
    I understand the dissapointement of ppl wanting to main blu mage, but its still not a reason to say things like "better not implement it at all".
    Before BLU announcement: hope BLU would maybe one day make it to XIV and they can main it. Read, play the game with it, instead of the job being its own side content.
    After BLU announcement: most hopes for that lost, several people hold onto hope SE will change it eventually, high cynicism.

    So yeah, to a lot of people, they'd have preferred no BLU at all because then there would've still been a chance for what they perceive to be a proper implementation. SE remaking BLU into something that can be played in the rest of the game is basically introducing another job, but with BLU already in-game as Limited, the chance of it being reintroduced feels slim.
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    Last edited by BillyKaplan; 12-11-2018 at 06:50 PM.

  7. #447
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    I think this conversation started when BLU was announced and we've come along way in a month. In that time Shadowbringer and the annual Final Fantasy event was announced as a much anticipated surprise.

    Now at this point we know the new race Viera will be a thing, which I'm looking forward to. There is the Dancer Class and GunBlade class, which people at the outset didn't know if that was going to happen.

    So, I'm happy about this whole discussion and I'm happy people brought this thread back. I think we've come along way as a FF14 community.

    As a new player only having really played 7 before this I did not understand these were all classes in their first MMO which I believe is 11. I thought these were entirely new classes, but I understand much of the community that played 11 wants those characters in 14. As a new player I'm excited about the Blue Mage.

    Now, the reality is this class comes out in January or February while Shadowbringer comes out the Summer of 2019. So, starting from lvl 1 going to 50 will probably take up until the time of Shadowbringer where I'm sure the class will evolve like other classes to 70. If not, then at least 60 where a new patch will update him to 70.

    I main now as Monk, but I play all the classes on one Character. This character Hercub Cherub. For Blue, I'll finally start a new character specifically for BLU.

    But what I don't know about BLU is what is the ideal race, astrological sign and other starting characteristics. I hope Enix releases that.

    Thanks everyone!
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  8. #448
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercub View Post
    I main now as Monk, but I play all the classes on one Character. This character Hercub Cherub. For Blue, I'll finally start a new character specifically for BLU.
    Sorry to tell you, but this most likely is what you can not do with BLU. Take any other class to start new. That said, i personally see no real reason in ff14 to start new charakters at all.

    The Developers decided that BLU just isn´t a normal job and most likely will never be.
    Im looking forward to see how overpowered (or not) it will be.
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  9. #449
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    I'd rather this thread be pinned for BLU discussion.
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  10. #450
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    I want square enix to turn blue mage into summoner 2.0 so it can raid. Then I get to see threads crying about how "it's not a real blue mage!" for as long as I've seen it for summoner.
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