Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Cincierta]

Today while doing Duty Roulette, I learned that I can tank up to 6 synced mobs in a party as WHM...only due to the pld tank not using Flash or Shield Oath and both me and the BRD begging him to do so.

Kill me.

[Dreggit]

I am under the understanding that when doing Shinryu Ex, you should always have the tail available for damage. To do so, you must place the tail on a panel that is not currently cracked. This is my understanding, but I guess I'm wrong.

I got kicked from this duty just now, and I am quite peeved at the moment.

We are in a farm party, I'm on my main, PLD, and have cleared this duty 12 times now. So we go through the motions, and when it comes to the tank to place a tail, the only space available that isn't cracked is the front right. Traditionally, in all 12 of my clears, it was back left almost always, but not this time.
So, of course, being the only available space, I place the tail front right. Oh my god. Never have I ever been thrown under the bus for blame so hard and thrown shade in my face. apparently I'm wrong, and should have placed the tail back right anyways. Losing the tail damage, and continuing the fight.

If I am wrong, and that was the better play. Then fine, I can handle being wrong, but to belittle me and then kick me, my co-tank that agreed with my play, and the two healers. (presumably. They shortly later made a PF about not being a 'trap' healer or tank) One of the final things they had said before the kick was that I need to adjust to the situation, and that he didn't care if we lost tail damage, it was better than losing the front panels. But mind you, the back 3 panels were open for the knock back mechanic, but nope, I guess moving to that end was too much trouble for the PF leader.

After deliberation with others about the duty everyone has said that tail up time is a priority over everything else after the heart. So, I PM'd the PF guy, wished them good luck, that I talked to several people who also thought it was an okay play on my part, and then left that as it is. But my word am I just irked. The attitude that guy had is the absolute worst. If you want to farm a thing, by all means do, but if you're going to throw a hissy fit over a nuanced situation that not only is preventable, but also able to be adjusted too then maybe you should just run things with your own buddies who do the fight exactly how you want it to be done.

Jeez. The fact he told me to adjust. To an easily adjustable outcome. I just, sigh.

[HyoMinPark]

Alright. So I had told myself that I wasn’t going to do Eureka after Pagos, but my Pyros curiosity got the better of me after hearing all my friends talk about it, so I decided last week to slog through Pagos. I decided, to entertain myself while farming for stuff for relics in helping out a group of people that basically tries to spawn and farm Cassie (because I really want her earrings).

Anyways, last night, I actually spawned and killed her in an instance of 36 people. And it was dicey. Tonight, we prepped her again, and right when it didn’t seem like she would spawn, she spawned.

In an instance with only 9 people in it.

7 of us decided we were just a little insane, and tried to see if we could actually kill her with just 7 other people. We wiped once the adds spawned, and the RDM said he would take the L and respawn to chain raise us. He unfortunately got killed, so then one of the healers took the L and got us raised. The adds stayed (they have crazy aggro range by the way), so we crazily decided to pull them and kill them first, and then tackle her again, despite the timer only having 12 minutes left. And we actually got her to 41% before the FATE was about to die. So, provided that we hadn’t fumbled too much with the adds, we could have actually 7-manned Cassie.

I’ll have to admit, that was a lot of fun. Mad props to those who stayed to help us, and to the RDM and the healer that took the L to respawn and get us up, you’re amazing.

Yes, I know NMs scale with instance size, but let me feel impressed that we got that far with 7 people, a few of which had never even participated in her FATE before.

[MetalSnakeXI1]

I am under the understanding that when doing Shinryu Ex, you should always have the tail available for damage. To do so, you must place the tail on a panel that is not currently cracked. This is my understanding, but I guess I'm wrong.

I got kicked from this duty just now, and I am quite peeved at the moment.

We are in a farm party, I'm on my main, PLD, and have cleared this duty 12 times now. So we go through the motions, and when it comes to the tank to place a tail, the only space available that isn't cracked is the front right. Traditionally, in all 12 of my clears, it was back left almost always, but not this time.
So, of course, being the only available space, I place the tail front right. Oh my god. Never have I ever been thrown under the bus for blame so hard and thrown shade in my face. apparently I'm wrong, and should have placed the tail back right anyways. Losing the tail damage, and continuing the fight.

If I am wrong, and that was the better play. Then fine, I can handle being wrong, but to belittle me and then kick me, my co-tank that agreed with my play, and the two healers. (presumably. They shortly later made a PF about not being a 'trap' healer or tank) One of the final things they had said before the kick was that I need to adjust to the situation, and that he didn't care if we lost tail damage, it was better than losing the front panels. But mind you, the back 3 panels were open for the knock back mechanic, but nope, I guess moving to that end was too much trouble for the PF leader.

After deliberation with others about the duty everyone has said that tail up time is a priority over everything else after the heart. So, I PM'd the PF guy, wished them good luck, that I talked to several people who also thought it was an okay play on my part, and then left that as it is. But my word am I just irked. The attitude that guy had is the absolute worst. If you want to farm a thing, by all means do, but if you're going to throw a hissy fit over a nuanced situation that not only is preventable, but also able to be adjusted too then maybe you should just run things with your own buddies who do the fight exactly how you want it to be done.

Jeez. The fact he told me to adjust. To an easily adjustable outcome. I just, sigh.

I can never understand why the party kicked you cuz by all means you did the right thing,cuz if you placed the tail on the cracked platform in the back it would've broke,you would've lost tail damage and the farm would've gotten even longer

A rule for Shinryu EX,at least for all farms I got in, is this:Tail>Heart>Shinryu, cuz it takes a looooong time to widdle Shinryu's HP down even with the most optimal DPS uptime without killing the tail and heart and it's essential for DPS checking since you can skip both the dive bomb and Aerial Blast if the party managed to kill the tail and heart everytime they're up

Sure you'd need to keep the platforms in the front intact for most of the fight for chains........but by the time the tanks get the tail marker there is barely any necessary chain breaking after healers chain in Diamond Dust beside the Aerial Blast chains which as I mentioned above can be skipped if tail and heart are always dealt with

You did the right thing,it's just you got unlucky with the shitty PF guy(btw side question....was he a mentor?)....sadly the likes of him are a plenty in farms especially in Tsukiyomi EX farm parties....I legit gave up farming Tsuki and Suzaku for mounts and just settled with getting the weapons

Wish I can help you with Shinryu farming but my final exams are coming soon so I don't have a lot of time to log in

Today while doing Duty Roulette, I learned that I can tank up to 6 synced mobs in a party as WHM...only due to the pld tank not using Flash or Shield Oath and both me and the BRD begging him to do so.

Kill me.

Lol yesterday on my alliance roullette I was a BRD, the tank so adamantly refused to come in and tank the ads I suddenly found myself aggroing them twice because he never came

Who knew BRD would become the new tanking meta xD

[Dreggit]

I can never understand why the party kicked you cuz by all means you did the right thing,cuz if you placed the tail on the cracked platform in the back it would've broke,you would've lost tail damage and the farm would've gotten even longer

A rule for Shinryu EX,at least for all farms I got in, is this:Tail>Heart>Shinryu, cuz it takes a looooong time to widdle Shinryu's HP down even with the most optimal DPS uptime without killing the tail and heart and it's essential for DPS checking since you can skip both the dive bomb and Aerial Blast if the party managed to kill the tail and heart everytime they're up

Sure you'd need to keep the platforms in the front intact for most of the fight for chains........but by the time the tanks get the tail marker there is barely any necessary chain breaking after healers chain in Diamond Dust beside the Aerial Blast chains which as I mentioned above can be skipped if tail and heart are always dealt with

You did the right thing,it's just you got unlucky with the shitty PF guy(btw side question....was he a mentor?)....sadly the likes of him are a plenty in farms especially in Tsukiyomi EX farm parties....I legit gave up farming Tsuki and Suzaku for mounts and just settled with getting the weapons

Wish I can help you with Shinryu farming but my final exams are coming soon so I don't have a lot of time to log in

That's what I had thought. I'm still kind of peeved about it after going to bed. Never have I come across such a rotten attitude. One other thing regarding the interaction, they happened to be a red mage, who was of the opinion that they alone had to carry the group. I don't remember if they were a mentor.

I enjoy raiding. It's the most fun aspect to me because playing together as a team is rewarding and fun. Yes, not everyone is perfect, no team is. Running into an "I" player (someone that overvalued themselves over the team) doesn't usually bother me so badly but in this instance it most certainly did.

[tinythinker]

Definitely going to jinx myself but haven't had anything terrible in DF for 2 weeks. There was an interesting (but not horrible or rant worthy) run last night of a main story scenario - the one with the searchlights.

Tank was doing first pull and got low on health so I tossed a heal. No issue until stopped. Got eaten alive even though main and off tank were right there while trying to cast Holy. But the Scholar will save me! Nope. But the Scolar will rez me? Nope. Uh, the Scholar will let me run back then mostly use Ruin and Shadowflare even if the tanks are in trouble, be way behind group on other side of map a lot, then disconnect for the last 1/4 of the instance? Bingo!

Not an issue as the place is easy as h*ck to heal solo. Just odd. Not sure if they were having really bad connection issues or just Summoner queuing as Scholar while watching Netflix.

Had the same instance the night before and I hit the final boss with the cannon on all but one volley. Again, not upset just not sure if others didn't know what to do or just weren't feeling it.

[tinythinker]

Oh, and examples of *good* dynamics from earlier this week:

Group forgot how Both Ends work in Temple of the Fist. Patiently waited for someone to check a guide.

Group forgot Byblos invulnerability mechanics in The Great Gubal Library. Patiently waited for someone to check a guide.

Healer (yeah) getting blown off a ledge by the Demonic Tome boss met with friendly humor.

Mentor tank asks at start (with two sprout dps) if people need to know mechanics before each boss in Temple of Qarn (Hard). Patiently re-asks after we wipe to 75k needles then gives a simple explanation.

Ranged casters giving the WHM manashifts automatically after Holy spam (multiple days/groups). Yes at least one mana helper CD was back or almost back up but still appreciated.

Other examples.

Thanks to those who make DF roullete a good time rather than a chore.

[MetalSnakeXI1]

That's what I had thought. I'm still kind of peeved about it after going to bed. Never have I come across such a rotten attitude. One other thing regarding the interaction, they happened to be a red mage, who was of the opinion that they alone had to carry the group. I don't remember if they were a mentor.

I enjoy raiding. It's the most fun aspect to me because playing together as a team is rewarding and fun. Yes, not everyone is perfect, no team is. Running into an "I" player (someone that overvalued themselves over the team) doesn't usually bother me so badly but in this instance it most certainly did.

Don't let the likes of these get to you cuz that way you let them win

I told this story before here twice but I ran into a mentor ninja during a deltascape V4 savage run who called me a "wheelchair-ass DRG" before exiting the party so i cant reply to him cuz he's on a different server......At first it kinda irked me so I understand where you're coming from but y'know what I did to that ninja?I blacklisted him,reported him and kept trying until I eventually beat Neo Exdeath

Elitist bigots like this are dime a dozen on the internet and they take advantage of the anonimity to try and get away with being horrible assholes.The moment you let their garbage nonsense get into you is the moment they win

Trust me you're doing fine man,it's sadly the nature of the party finder(made worse by some horrid mentors jerking off their burger king crown).I hope this doesn't put you down from raiding but if I would offer an advice it would be this:If you meet some geniunely good people during raids or EX farms,try to befriend them if you can.It's those friends that came to my aid for my first clears of Shinryu EX,Byakko EX and deltascape V4 savage.Even if they make mistakes with mechanics during raids from time to time bear with them.I won't say you should build a static group but having even 2 or 3 people to raid with you from time to time can go a long way into smoothing the PF experience.

Note:Not all mentors are bad,I met some geniunely awesome mentors....it's just those are very few and far between

[InkstainedGwyn]

I'm enjoying the crazy/good stories (like 7-manning Cassie and group patience) that have been popping up recently, too. I'm glad we're coming through with tales that make us laugh, not just make us cry.

Reminds me of a LotA run where an FC mate triggered Phlegethon, ran out of the room, had Phlegethon follow him out of the room and not despawn, become immune, and proceed to chase us through the halls before eventually murdering everyone. And then he didn't despawn, he just corpse-camped. It was kind of wonderful.

[Oraros]

Reminds me of a LotA run where an FC mate triggered Phlegethon, ran out of the room, had Phlegethon follow him out of the room and not despawn, become immune, and proceed to chase us through the halls before eventually murdering everyone. And then he didn't despawn, he just corpse-camped. It was kind of wonderful.

That sounds like it would be hilarious and super fun for people who have done that raid many times, but a nightmare to new people.