Please Remove Tomestones currency

[PyurBlue]

"Give us more content" simply isnt possible, no matter how much effort they put into this - or at least isnt not possible to give us enough content to keep us busy the whole time between patch cycles.
I dont know how long it takes them to develop a dungeon, but I can tell you how long it takes a group of 4 people to clear said dungeon (15-30 minutes, usually) and I'm pretty damn sure that it takes them longer to design that...

Yet they already have content generators that are faster than groups running dungeons, namely PoTD and HoH. They could perhaps focus on improving these dungeon generators to produce more diverse content. It's unlikely that these random generators will match the work of skilled developers fine tuning individual dungeons by hand, but I see a lot of potential for a good compromise.

So, they need to give us reasons to repeat the content - for once, because they cant produce enough content for us to have a new dungeon ever evening and secondly because people play at different speeds and start the game at different points and "veterans" still need a reason to go back into "old" dungeons again, so new people can clear them.

I'm not arguing against repeating content. Ultimately you're going to have to go back and do something you've done before. This shouldn't be a bad thing, players should be looking forward to at least some of it. I enjoy some dungeons more than others, although level sync can take away some of the fun. Changing it to stat sync instead would improve the experience in my opinion. Making existing older content more relevant is additional content as far as I'm concerned. I hope that staying relevant means more than "gives tomestones" though. I'd like them to be relevant relative to my class level as well.

The difficulties that you're pointing out are completely valid, but I don't think they're insurmountable. The devs have some reasoning behind their decisions, but is it the system the best that it can be? I don't think so.

How often would you play a dungeon or a trial "for fun"? Three times? Four times, maybe? Probably a fifth after not seeing that content for a year?
"Fun" is the reward when you play the dungeon for the first time, but since they cant give you a new dungeon to play for the first time every day and there are people who still need that first time experience, you still need some sort of reward.
That can be RNG-stuff (music, mounts, minions, glamour...) but that can get annoying and demotivating fast, because you do your run, get nothing and feel like you've wasted your time (because the dungeon just isnt new, exciting, intresting and much fun anymore on your 35th run).

There are lot of things to consider in answering this question. If there is only one fun dungeon then you can burn it out rather quickly. If on the other hand there are many choices, that will prevent things from feeling stale for much longer. You also have to consider dungeon design, which is totally static right now, but doesn't have to be. A dungeon could be designed so that after 35 runs you've had 35 different experiences. Personally, I find a good bit of replayability in just switching classes. This is especially true if I'm not great at a given class as I'll go back and rerun the content to optimize. Increasing difficulty, or providing an option for increased difficulty, would put more pressure on me to optimize and give me more reason to rerun the content.

Or they give you a guranteed reward, like tomestones, to make sure that you'll get something out of the run for sure. By making them limited weekly, they also add a certain value to them - you cant just go farm them "whenever".

Tomestones are infinitely better than random drops, you won't see me argue otherwise. The weekly cap doesn't add value though, it just makes it annoying slow to gear up. That reduces the number of options I have when it comes to playing high level content.

There is no way they can keep us busy all the time without sending us back into old content, but they need to give us a reason to do so. Even the most fun dungeon isnt much fun on your 10th run anymore - but they need you to run it way more than that, for the sake of new people for example.

Well again, if there was only one piece of content to run, you would hit the 10 "limit" quickly. If there were say 10 dungeons, you'd have 100 dungeon runs before you burnt out.

And if you really dont want to run those dungeons for anything but fun: you can ignore the tomestones alltogether and use the other gear-options the game gives you.

Well the thing is, the game is designed around rewarding you with little tidbits at a time. I want a shift in focus where there is more content delivered that is about the experience than what you get at the end. FF14 is what is at the end of the day, even if I got what I wanted, it would be the same game. SE can't turn it into something completely different because of the costs involved and also the risk of alienating the people that are comfortable with what exists now. I'm not trying to turn FF14 into a different game, just trying to nudge it in a direction that I'd prefer.

They cant possibly put enough money and/or effort into this game to keep us busy and "intrested" all the time without recycling content and sending us back to repeat the dungeons.
If you however think thats possible... I'd like to hear your suggestions - only throwing money at it, isnt a valid one.

If they're going to keep to the current formula you're probably right. There are other ways for them to approach the problem though. The automated dungeon generation that I mentioned above seems like it would be within their reach.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The underlying issue here is that players grind then quit without these limitations in the first place. If more human beings were less pathetic, they wouldn't need to resort to annoying limitations to hold onto players who apparently enjoy quitting the game they "like" as soon as they "finish" it.

ITT it's "pathetic" to lose interest in repeating the same stale activities endlessly with no tangible benefit. There more you know, I suppose.

Without lockouts or weekly limits, I could easily obtain i400 within days. Please, do explain how the game is supposed to maintain my interest for seven months when virtually everything was just invalided within seconds. This nonsense is the equivalent of claiming you dislike The Last of Us because I stopped playing it after finishing the story in a week. We'll ignore there is nothing left for the game to offer except replaying it on a harder difficulty—which only offers so much replay value. Now I may play it again down the road, but not immediately. MMOs do not have this luxury since they charge a monthly sub. They have to keep players hooked somehow, TLoU doesn't.

Yet they already have content generators that are faster than groups running dungeons, namely PoTD and HoH. They could perhaps focus on improving these dungeon generators to produce more diverse content. It's unlikely that these random generators will match the work of skilled developers fine tuning individual dungeons by hand, but I see a lot of potential for a good compromise.

Deep Dungeon doesn't generate new dungeons. It has a set number of floors with significantly less variance in aesthetic to compensate. This is starkly different from dungeon design. What you're essentially asking for is a No Man's Sky equivalent at an even larger scale than they promised. The cost of such an undertaking would be insane, especially if they're intended to be unique. Furthermore, you cannot generate boss fights in this matter. And substantially amount of time is placed on their development. You aren't going to see a Kefka, Omega, Ozma or Bahamut through automatically generated content. Regardless, all this completely ignores generated content will never actually be unique. There is only so many ways something can be implemented before it becomes stale. 35 unique experience whilst running the same dungeon is impossible. No game, regardless of budget or technology can produce the experience you're demanding.