Blue Mage: Are you kidding me!?

[RopeDrink]

though recommend to play it mostly solo (for atmospheric reasons), and only occasionally join up with others for some bigger / difficult events

It's like saying "I don't like salad, but if you remove everything except the lettuce I'll give it 8/10". If I wanted atmospheric reasons to play Fallout I'd enjoy the actual single-player titles that do it far better, rather than tune out of the features of an MMO-Fallout. I'm by no means a hater of the new game - even the videos that had painted it in the absolute worst light imaginable proved to me that despite its flaws I could easily find enjoyment despite them... But that doesn't make it good. They may be smoothing its edges, but there are an obnoxiously huge amount of edges and most of them won't remedy the issue people have with the overall product.

As for FFXIV and Blue Mage, again, it's a wait-and-see deal. I understand people are annoyed that it isn't being treated like a regular job, but if they did, people would swap from complaining about "Solo Class" and instead berate it for not being true to its origins or being nothing like an actual Blue Mage for the sake of balance - in such a case you may as well play something similar to [Insert Other Class Here] in anything other than job title. Wait - and - see. And when you've seen it, push actual constructive feedback on the topic. If the distaste is still sky-high there is a (small) chance for consideration, but it won't happen with other classes on the horizon and a whole expansion of additional content, whatever it may be. Give them time and at least pretend to appreciate that they heard the call for Blue Mage and got a ball rolling, even if you don't like the shape of the ball.

[Starcake28]

Anyway what i'm thinking abt doing is saying F 4.5 content i'll just wait for blue mage content because if i Can't play the class i loved why play at all not only tht as we can see alot of ppl are quitting because of this mess thy doing now thy Do THIS to blue mage whats next.... As for the FF11 THING i would play it over FF14 like i said before if thy release it to ps4 because i don't really msg with Pc unless i twitter or live stream chat with ppl that invite me i'm mostly busy i did quit till my BF ask me to play again but i really didn't want to play anymore because game director said they may not add blue mage so my hopes was out the window without blue mage there is no fun at all in FF14 right now because tht combo mess is basically just spamming over and over again which make the game very boring but the way thy showed blue mage Tht's the way the game need to go basic everything on damage thy need to drop the WOW mess and i'll keep saying it because tht game is trash and everyone know its trash but most ppl will fight for it go ahead because i tryed WOW there wasn't anything in tht game fun at all but FF11 everything abt tht game was awesome till ppl got so lazy thy wanted something in the game so thy can get carried if u just a game to get carried there is no place for u in the game because Tht's just sad really but what can i say ppl will be ppl thy will do wat thy want to do and ya i'm laying everything down here and now if things keep going this why this game going to dead out really fast if ppl Can't play what they love they will leave if that person leave i'm 75% sure there friends will leave to the more ppl that leave the game the less money they will get just like frosty and task said we blue mage players need to sand up to the dev's but don't go over board we need to get them to understand we want blue mage as a job all thy need to do is remove all the oP so call spells and the Other spells lower there damage abit like RDM damage There's alot thy can do so we Can't just give up lets believe one day they will see blue mage like we do in group partys as what blue mage can bring to group partys like burn debuffs which i'll say again acid shower like ninjas trick attack but blue mages spell hit all mobs also they could learn haste from a enemy ^^ There's alot blue mage can do and it can be balance if they can balance enemys we kill thy can balance anything i believe this Tht's all i hve to say hope to see you again in FF14 Fanfest w.e lol

[Darkpaw]

It's like saying "I don't like salad, but if you remove everything except the lettuce I'll give it 8/10". If I wanted atmospheric reasons to play Fallout I'd enjoy the actual single-player titles that do it far better, rather than tune out of the features of an MMO-Fallout. I'm by no means a hater of the new game - even the videos that had painted it in the absolute worst light imaginable proved to me that despite its flaws I could easily find enjoyment despite them... But that doesn't make it good. They may be smoothing its edges, but there are an obnoxiously huge amount of edges and most of them won't remedy the issue people have with the overall product.

As for FFXIV and Blue Mage, again, it's a wait-and-see deal. I understand people are annoyed that it isn't being treated like a regular job, but if they did, people would swap from complaining about "Solo Class" and instead berate it for not being true to its origins or being nothing like an actual Blue Mage for the sake of balance - in such a case you may as well play something similar to [Insert Other Class Here] in anything other than job title. Wait - and - see. And when you've seen it, push actual constructive feedback on the topic. If the distaste is still sky-high there is a (small) chance for consideration, but it won't happen with other classes on the horizon and a whole expansion of additional content, whatever it may be. Give them time and at least pretend to appreciate that they heard the call for Blue Mage and got a ball rolling, even if you don't like the shape of the ball.

Going to just stick with this because this is the most sensical point I've actually come across in here.

[KokoChibata]

Unpopular opinion incoming! I personally think the way they structured BLU is just fine. Looking back on FFXI If i didnt have a specific spell I would get removed from party Sheep Song and Petal Dance were the 2 biggest for this. So if we look at it for 14 and people wanna roflstomp [insert raid boss here] and the BLU does not have Lv.5 Death would you realistically keep them in the group or find a BLU that has it? These were the types of questions the devs were thinking of they even gave examples during the live letter. Can you still run content with BLU? Yeah it has to be a pre-formed party but they can run the content up to lvl50. They cant do roulettes but they can run dungeons or do the lvl 50 ex primals or raids. But BLUs structure for how its being implmented is pretty much needed since again taking from 11 BLUs spells werent as powerful as the actual monster abilities they learned. Where as ours for 14 its sounding like we will be getting the full powered abilities which means BLU as far as balance goes will be overly over powered which is good for solo play it means you'll be as strong if not stronger then a full party. But this is just my 2 cents in all likelyhood they'll remove some of the restrictions gradually as time goes on.

[Starcake28]

Tht's your point but again ppl don't give in if you want to see blue mage in content like they should be the main thing i keep seeing is ppl tht don't really want a farming class in game tht will out dps other classes Tht's wat i'm seeing

[Karshan]

I do not know what will be the future of BLU in the months to come.

What I do know is that, for now at least, it can't do high end content. So I'll give it a try when it can. If it never is able too, then so be it.
I'll level the rest first with the expansion, to keep up to date and do primals and savages with several classes, and give BLU a try after that. Who knows, maybe by the time we're done with 5.0 in summer 2019 they figured a way to put in classical endgame content.

All I know is I'll not rush to it and just wait to see (not wait and see). I just don't want to spend time in something that would NEVER reach endgame no matter what. So for people like me the best thing is to wait to see, not january's edition but what his first evolution / limit breaker will be, and stop complaining about world's end. There are still at least 2 new jobs, and several skills that might profoundly change existing jobs' gameplay, so "limited" jobs are a bonus.

[Shiroe]

It's like saying "I don't like salad, but if you remove everything except the lettuce I'll give it 8/10". If I wanted atmospheric reasons to play Fallout I'd enjoy the actual single-player titles that do it far better, rather than tune out of the features of an MMO-Fallout. I'm by no means a hater of the new game - even the videos that had painted it in the absolute worst light imaginable proved to me that despite its flaws I could easily find enjoyment despite them... But that doesn't make it good. They may be smoothing its edges, but there are an obnoxiously huge amount of edges and most of them won't remedy the issue people have with the overall product.

As for FFXIV and Blue Mage, again, it's a wait-and-see deal.

F76 is imo just more fun when played alone, it was intended to be playable alone..., the "Mmo" part is for players who enjoy social aspects more than the immersion of playing alone..

some enjoy to watch movies like Scream or Alien with budies and beer, their main enjoyment is being with others and not the choice of movie

(movies like Avengers would be better to watch with buddies though, .. but Scream and Alien have their merits when watched with others)

others would rather enyoy Alien alone late at night, more than watching Avengers with buddies

as for BlueMage, there are people out there, that enjoy Solo-content in Mmos a lot.., BlueMage could be ideal for that.. and lets see if its fun as such too (hopefully with good rewards too, like exclusive mounts)

[Kabooa]

as for BlueMage, there are people out there, that enjoy Solo-content in Mmos a lot.., BlueMage could be ideal for that.. and lets see if its fun as such too (hopefully with good rewards too, like exclusive mounts)

You didn't have to give up one to get the other, is all anyone here is saying.

[Starcake28]

I do not know what will be the future of BLU in the months to come.

What I do know is that, for now at least, it can't do high end content. So I'll give it a try when it can. If it never is able too, then so be it.
I'll level the rest first with the expansion, to keep up to date and do primals and savages with several classes, and give BLU a try after that. Who knows, maybe by the time we're done with 5.0 in summer 2019 they figured a way to put in classical endgame content.

All I know is I'll not rush to it and just wait to see (not wait and see). I just don't want to spend time in something that would NEVER reach endgame no matter what. So for people like me the best thing is to wait to see, not january's edition but what his first evolution / limit breaker will be, and stop complaining about world's end. There are still at least 2 new jobs, and several skills that might profoundly change existing jobs' gameplay, so "limited" jobs are a bonus.

Tht's not why i'm complaining abt Blu some of its just because its the cap starting up and i want to play blue mage only.. If thy can make a job that play like blue mage thn i'll give up on blue because right now all the jobs in FF14 suck but only thing i mostly love is the story abt my character its sad to see how things are going on around her i just Can't wait to see how all of it play out so i really hope i can get a job in game i like too not just story

[Seraphor]

You didn't have to give up one to get the other, is all anyone here is saying.

With how strict the balance is for FFXIVs raid scene, i think it was unavoidable.
Blue Mage is a horizontal progression job.
Raiding in XIV relies on a purely vertical progression.