getting kicked from end game pfs as soon as I join?

[Ilan]

it doesn't have to be.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/person see 1.1


It can be anything that seperates them as an individual.
it can be via there name. an id. location data OR an online identifier. if that information can be tracked to an Individual indentifer it is personal data.

Your Character for example can be identified as an individual person or player. while people may not know your real name or address or anything like that. your character is still an online indentifier and can be indentified as a person. not a group of people but an individual person. and that makes any data pertaining to your online identifier. personal data.


The Lodestone is directly connected to the game and thus you consent to it having that data when you accept the terms and conditions for the game

you can however go into your lodestone and choose what data you wish to share. you can hide your achievements your friends, your minion collection and various other things.

But you can't hide everything including your name, which would also fall under private datas IF logs would. It also doesn't matter if you accept the terms of the game because these terms are outruled by the law.

[Stormfur]

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But what i find way more interesting is that most people share literally everything on socialmedia but they almost start a riot when people see how they do in a videogame.

I don't have a horse in this race (I don't raid savage), but I think the key difference here is...what I share on social media is between myself and those I trust. What is on FFLogs is available to anyone. As best as I can tell, all of us who play this game have given the rights of our characters and everything about them over to Square-enix when we signed up, but not to anyone outside of that.

[Ilan]

I don't have a horse in this race (I don't raid savage), but I think the key difference here is...what I share on social media is between myself and those I trust. What is on FFLogs is available to anyone. As best as I can tell, all of us who play this game have given the rights of our characters and everything about them over to Square-enix when we signed up, but not to anyone outside of that.

Oh you can also keep your logs to yourself if you want to because you can tell them that you don't want your character name in there. Its not much different from social media where you have to do settings for privacy, where i can see most peoples pictures as a stranger anyway, except that you have to contact them. But thats not the point i was going for, a ton of people share literally everything on social media with their thousands of "friends" and i bet some of them are among the people who complain about their logs on fflogs. What do you think is worse? Showing pictures of yourself to the public or that people can see how you can control your pixels?

[whiskeybravo]

Yea, I'd agree the GDPR is not applicable to this situation. It's already a stretch to claim battlelog data as some sort of personal data equivalent to your bank account, social security, driver's license, legal name, address, credit card.. etc etc. These are all tangible things in real life. I can't really see how the damage you dealt to a video game boss would fall into this purview. Furthermore, GDPR seems to place concern on how companies use, store, secure the personal data we as consumers have given them, and solidifies our rights to have that personal information removed or modified.

An aside, regarding FFLOGS in particular. Nobody is submitting or sharing your personal information with them. They use publicly available Lodestone data to try and assign the uploaded battlelog to a matching character. For example, I have 2 characters with the same name on different servers. My logs get mixed up between them because I don't personally upload. So it uses Lodestone data to find a match using the person who uploaded it's server as a tiebreaker. More specifically, my alt is on Lamia, but the people I run with on my alt are on Leviathan so when they upload it uses Leviathan as the tie-breaking server. FFLOGs does not possess the ability to actually match your character up correctly, so obviously they aren't using any sort of personal data.

[HyoMinPark]

it doesn't have to be.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/person see 1.1


It can be anything that seperates them as an individual.
it can be via there name. an id. location data OR an online identifier. if that information can be tracked to an Individual indentifer it is personal data.

Your Character for example can be identified as an individual person or player. while people may not know your real name or address or anything like that. your character is still an online indentifier and can be indentified as a person. not a group of people but an individual person. and that makes any data pertaining to your online identifier. personal data.

As per that definition you linked, LEGALLY and FORMALLY, no, it cannot. Your character is not a real person, offers absolutely no legal or formal identifier of your real person, and its name is 100% public knowledge. It is not protected under any sort of privacy act like an individual's real information would be.

You're reaching with this.

you can however go into your lodestone and choose what data you wish to share. you can hide your achievements your friends, your minion collection and various other things.

But you cannot hide your character name, the "identifier" you are arguing. So this point is irrelevant. And, as far as I'm aware, only friends lists and achievements can be private. Mounts/minions are always public - I've never seen anyone hide them and I do not recall ever seeing an option to do so.

[Rhus]

I love how that website is like a wmd on this website. Mention it once in passing and a dozen pages later people are still going on about it.

[Aquaslash]

I can understand why you would want to hide your logs. I'm a ps4 player and as such I can't control what's updated. I've often found that my runs where I have an off day and maintain a constant Brink of Death will be uploaded, but my runs where I'm on fire and outdamaging several dps combined are nowhere to be found. What really gets me is I can't even ASK to have runs uploaded because someone in the party might have a hissy fit and report me.

Just the downsides of career pugging

[stanrir]

Did you tried to whisper the party leader for the reason why the kicked you?

only one of the two and they never replied. I also tried to rejoin the pf thinking maybe I got kicked by mistake and it told me unable to join the pf, and I noticed a Ninja got in a little while later

[thegreatonemal]

I can understand why you would want to hide your logs. I'm a ps4 player and as such I can't control what's updated. I've often found that my runs where I have an off day and maintain a constant Brink of Death will be uploaded, but my runs where I'm on fire and outdamaging several dps combined are nowhere to be found. What really gets me is I can't even ASK to have runs uploaded because someone in the party might have a hissy fit and report me.

Just the downsides of career pugging

Asking someone to upload will not get you reported and your a ps4 player so you can't get in trouble for it.

[Tempest222]

Asking someone to upload will not get you reported and your a ps4 player so you can't get in trouble for it.

Could get someone else reported though. Would be risky for someone to respond to such a request in a group of randoms by agreeing to upload logs as that would be an admission of parsing.