Blue Mage: Are you kidding me!?

[Elnidfse]

You act like they did it solely on their own. They had the -other- juggernaut to paint what works for that scale. They did a good job. Don't paint them as infallible or even batting a .9 average.

When it comes to Jobs, they've shat the bed quite a bit, with decisions that a basic playtest could have pointed out that "This doesn't make sense why this is this and that is that".

Alone?
Nobody said that, what I did say is that the team is talented and calling them anything less is... crude at best.

And what else was that?Pain them as infallible?
Frankly it's a joke that anybody could make that assumption given the job I play and my post history.
Some decisions are good, some are bad. But this has been something on the table since ARR. I'm sure they've gone through plenty of alternatives and ended up with this one. I'm going to at least look at the tool tips before I render my judgement and try out it's end game before I start doing off the wall things like saying the team isn't applying themselves hard enough. My word.

[Starcake28]

Alone?
Nobody said that, what I did say is that the team is talented and calling them anything less is... crude at best.

And what else was that?Pain them as infallible?
Frankly it's a joke that anybody could make that assumption given the job I play and my post history.
Some decisions are good, some are bad. But this has been something on the table since ARR. I'm sure they've gone through plenty of alternatives and ended up with this one. I'm going to at least look at the tool tips before I render my judgement and try out it's end game before I start doing off the wall things like saying the team isn't applying themselves hard enough. My word.

You still don't understand what i'm saying i'm not saying there bad at fixing stuff wat i'm pointing at is setting up jobs tht where a big pull in Final fantasy history but you have your view point i have my view point and i agree everyone not going toagree with me but i still know some of the ppl tht will because... tht is still playing FF11 and i'm not saying your not a fan anyway i'll say it again..... i'm going to give it a chance just like i'm still giving fallout 76 a chances

[Huntrss]

The Issue goes SE Force Final Fantasy 14 1.0 out thinking they could Count on a second Success Thanks to Final Fantasy 11 and what was there. Then when that Failed thanks to The Developers Bumping everything to Max (Yes I'm Looking at you Flower Pot) and having other issues like it couldn't run right, Crash and other things wrong with it because SE wanted it out before the Developers were Ready to Let it out. Now you keep wondering why I'm saying this because you have to keep in mind it takes 5 or more years to make a MMO (Yoshi-P did it in 2 years and patch up 1.0 to 1.23). Sorry guys but they are working Hard maybe harder then anyone knows. As for the Blue Mage I would wait and see but at least they are making it right and keeping it fateful to the Blue Mage.


P.S. People Saying Work Harder to the Developers is very stupid. when you have no idea what they are dealing with.

[Starcake28]

[QUOTE=Huntrss;4831359]The Issue goes SE Force Final Fantasy 14 1.0 out thinking they could Count on a second Success Thanks to Final Fantasy 11 and what was there. Then when that Failed thanks to The Developers Bumping everything to Max (Yes I'm Looking at you Flower Pot) and having other issues like it couldn't run right, Crash and other things wrong with it because SE wanted it out before the Developers were Ready to Let it out. Now you keep wondering why I'm saying this because you have to keep in mind it takes 5 or more years to make a MMO (Yoshi-P did it in 2 years and patch up 1.0 to 1.23). Sorry guys but they are working Hard maybe harder then anyone knows. As for the Blue Mage I would wait and see but at least they are making it right and keeping it fateful to the Blue Mage.

If thats pointing at me i wasn't saying they not working hard i'm saying i hope that they don't hole blue mage back like.. lets say shadowbringer come out. Then they decide to just raise blue mage to 60 in patch 5.5 then they wait till they decide to release a new expansion which could be lvl 99 cap then decide to raise blue mage to lvl70 thats wat i'm looking at i don't really like the classes in game right now in final fantasy 11 ya i loved summoner to but this summoner still not there yet really don't look like a summoner at all

[Shiroe]

btw, after the 1st (buggy) shock of F76, it's waaaay better than the bashful critics are saying

8/10

though recommend to play it mostly solo (for atmospheric reasons), and only occasionally join up with others for some bigger / difficult events

[Darkpaw]

The only thing egregious is when some people attempt to speak for ALL fans like this. Like since when am I getting betrayed. I would have felt betrayed if they stripped the job down and remove the collection aspect like countless people in this thread have recommended. I don't feel betrayed by getting something true to the experience of the job.

Not entirely sure I understand what you are saying here, but everyone has their opinions and ultimately will voice them if they choose to. My point in what I said perhaps should have been stated more clearly. When I say this is not a betrayal of the fans. I mean the dev team has not gone out of their way to undermind fan expectations and sat in a dark room going. "This will teach those fans not to ask for specific things we've said no to." or something of the like.

[Starcake28]

Lol tht would be funny if thy was thinking abt tht because he did say he didn't want to add blu it make me feel like he also hated blue because blu is alot better thn blm also blu bring more fun to the game than any job for ppl tht love to work for power thn have it handed to u i feel like hard work is better so i love blue mage so if u have to say anything thy need to be op if you work for it but if u don't u need to stay weak srry Tht's just how i see it same go for RL you have to work for the money or you can be a lazy ass loser funny thing i feel srorry for thm think abt the anime you watch you always see thm working hard to win something right...

[Darkpaw]

Lol tht would be funny if thy was thinking abt tht because he did say he didn't want to add blu it make me feel like he also hated blue because blu is alot better thn blm also blu bring more fun to the game than any job for ppl tht love to work for power thn have it handed to u i feel like hard work is better so i love blue mage so if u have to say anything thy need to be op if you work for it but if u don't u need to stay weak srry Tht's just how i see it same go for RL you have to work for the money or you can be a lazy ass loser funny thing i feel srorry for thm think abt the anime you watch you always see thm working hard to win something right...

I don't recall him ever saying he didn't want to add blu. I remember him saying he didn't know how to implement blue properly because if he was going to implement blu into this game he wanted it to feel more like a traditional blue mage which he is a fan of.

And implementing a traditional.. (Please note people who are against this implementation of blue mage.. I said Traditional.) once again key word here is traditional blue mage would be an absolute nightmare. Which to be fair.. it likely would be in my opinion. I can't say for sure because I've never developed a job for an mmo I don't work in the gaming community so I cant particularly speak for the complications of developing this kind of thing.

[Besame]

Finally! Solo content to pass the time rather than nasty attitude groups. I am so looking forward to something different.

[Starcake28]

I guess darkpaw but i am looking forward to playing Blu but i hold we do gert to join duty finder after thy raise lvl cap and i hope its lvl cap 80 whn thy raise lvl but i have a feeling it will be 60 or 70