FFXIV FanFest Q&A - Character Models

[Melichoir]

Ive a tendency to exaggerate teh female figure when I do characters, so that probably played out a bit more here than what would actually be needed.

Im glad Im not the only one though who does like the idea of there being a bit more definition. As I said, Im more on board with 4 than 1. Particularly in areas like shoulder/waist/hip relations, as well as definign the legs just a small bit so theyre not just tubes. As I said, a slight bit of definition goes a long way I feel. Lalas I think could use it.

Now that I think about it, I remember reading someone mentioning that the way character editor works is that there is a set number of "options", and one of hte big reasons why you have a breast slider on Lalas thta ultimately doesnt do anything is because they needed to fill an option. Of all the races, I think having different body shapes on Lala would actually be a good thing. So instead of that slider, they could provide a body shape option (like 3 or 4 different sets) ranging from the original default to something akin to 4.

[Skivvy]

Ive a tendency to exaggerate teh female figure when I do characters, so that probably played out a bit more here than what would actually be needed.

Im glad Im not the only one though who does like the idea of there being a bit more definition. As I said, Im more on board with 4 than 1. Particularly in areas like shoulder/waist/hip relations, as well as definign the legs just a small bit so theyre not just tubes. As I said, a slight bit of definition goes a long way I feel. Lalas I think could use it.

Now that I think about it, I remember reading someone mentioning that the way character editor works is that there is a set number of "options", and one of hte big reasons why you have a breast slider on Lalas thta ultimately doesnt do anything is because they needed to fill an option. Of all the races, I think having different body shapes on Lala would actually be a good thing. So instead of that slider, they could provide a body shape option (like 3 or 4 different sets) ranging from the original default to something akin to 4.

I think #4 may have just hit me that way due to the contrast with our potato-form that we are rockin' now. But yeah, I'd be down for that in a heartbeat. I remember seeing some SE artwork ages ago, and the Lala on it looked to have a slightly more defined waistline. It was very subtle, but it looked quite fitting for the character.

Sadly, I doubt they will add body options in the future, but we can dream

[Rokke]

Would it be possible to request an official poll be supplied by SE to accurately gauge player desire for a normalization of Elezen proportions? I know i for one would welcome another poll to address aspects of the game the majority would like to see implemented. At this rate a sub race of half Elezen, with Elezen emote move sets, is the best i would hope for.

For all the flak that people asking for Viera got for requesting a race thats "hyuur with hun-human ears glued on" its kinda funny that people want to take an existing race with a somewhat unique body and add the option for it to be a hyur with non-huan ears glued on.



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[Melichoir]

I think its more an issue that with Elezen, again from strictly an artistic design PoV, is a bit awkward. You see, even if you can design a race with their own proportions, there still has to be consideration to the human figure. The reason being is that without some consideration, the design can fall into the uncanny valley. For the Elezen, it kinda does this a little bit with the in game models. Theyre designs are a touch weird.

[Rokke]

I think its more an issue that with Elezen, again from strictly an artistic design PoV, is a bit awkward. You see, even if you can design a race with their own proportions, there still has to be consideration to the human figure. The reason being is that without some consideration, the design can fall into the uncanny valley. For the Elezen, it kinda does this a little bit with the in game models. Theyre designs are a touch weird.

I don't have any male Roe characters because I think their proportions are too cartoonishly blocky...but requesting them to be "normalized" or have a 3rd option where its a human shaped muscular dude is silly. A highlander is more my taste. If I wanted to play a highlander, the only thing stopping me is a $10 fanta fee.

Roes and Elezen have their niche, they just don't appeal to everyone.

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Im all for cleaning up meshes and tweaking animations in the vein of OP. But if you want to be Hilda, just be a Middie and hide your ears. Insta helf.

[Melichoir]

Yeah I get the niche, but I guess my criticism is from the design perspective that the attributes they designed for are not that appealing broadly due to design choices. Not saying we should have Elezen that look like Hilda, but rather (just like my lalafell editing) we should have the designs cleaned up a bit. Though for my edits, its addressing the issue that the physical model with the shoulders being to narrow is causing the clipping, and to broaden them breaks the initial aesthetics, which then requires more redesigning. Updating the 'designs' though probably wont happen. To many people would likely complain, unless they provided body type options.

[Alacran]

For all the flak that people asking for Viera got for requesting a race thats "hyuur with hun-human ears glued on" its kinda funny that people want to take an existing race with a somewhat unique body and add the option for it to be a hyur with non-huan ears glued on.



@ potato clipping
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I have never been one of those individuals. I enjoy subtle features for different races, as i feel it only makes sense given the lore and established visual theme of the game. Many times have been against the idea of more beastmen like races.

[otarolgam]

Eh, the camera angle makes the problem a little over exaggerated because the hair cuts off the neck at just the right angle that the Elezen's Adam's Apple makes the neck look disjointed.

[Awful]

This may be blasphemous, but I actually kinda like #4 :X Maybe make the waist slightly less obvious and I'd be sold!

Don't get me wrong, I love our rotundness, but body shape options could be fun.

I'm in agreement I like #4 as well it just looks more natural for our potato friends.

[Schan]

^
Oh god! WHAT THE HELL, SQUARE?!

funny. that's what i named the album with the glitches i've come across.

My favorite gem of that mess of an album.

... and i'm no Elezen. I'm a Roe