SE, the concept of "Limited Jobs" is a really bad idea, turn back now

[MPNZ]

No, because the collecting aspect and silliness of it's literally what makes it worth investing the amount of time and effort into completing, and jobs like smn have really suffered due to being stripped down.They could very well fit Blue mage into five of the gameplay types that are available to players (tnk, hlr, physical ranged, cqc positional, and turret) at a later date considering that we have like 400+ possible enemy skills. Or, the could just balance it for soloing dungeons..

[Arkdra]

I think that's a bit unfair to say, perform gave birth to an entire SUB community of people recreating songs. It's pretty good content if you ask me.

Perform is real cool, but it's not really content in the usual sense of it and it isn't the sort of thing you could give something similar to other jobs as some kind of equivalence. Although I do ponder giving samurais something like letting us freedraw really bad calligraphy and then hold it up. That would quickly devolve into dick pics 24/7 though. Maybe let sch's wander around giving npc's math lessons.

[jon041065]

No, because the collecting aspect and silliness of it's literally what makes it worth investing the amount of time and effort into completing, and jobs like smn have really suffered due to being stripped down.They could very well fit Blue mage into five of the gameplay types that are available to players (tnk, hlr, physical ranged, cqc positional, and turret) at a later date considering that we have like 400+ possible enemy skills. Or, the could just balance it for soloing dungeons..

People on my side that are against blu do feel that the job could have fit within the XIV framework and most of us don't want the people excited for the solo content to lose that. They could/should make a different version of blu that has a separate job crystal that can be the balanced "XIV blu" that my side wants without the other side losing their solo job. They could take up to the 6.0 expansion to give us this and most of us said it would be fine. Then it wouldn't be a zero-sum game. It will be more of a "1+waitforthe1 = more happy players".

[Aerlana]

the side content around BLU will probably a good thing, or even an excellent thing.

The matter is not what we have... but what we dont have around the BLU

[Kitfox]

The true loss will be SE not listening to any feedback and going "Please trust me" again.

[Connor]

I think that the concept of limited jobs themselves is fine. I think the real problem is that a popular, iconic FF job is being locked behind them. If Blue Mage was renamed something else, MaskFighter, w/e, I don’t think there’s be as much of an issue.

But the whole thing stinks to me of SE saying ‘We want to add Blue Mage but we can’t be bothered to balance this job in parties so let’s just not let it in parties’.

I mentioned before in another thread that I’ve never really been interested in Blue Mage so it’s not a big deal to me, but I can imagine if they announced a classic FF job I always really liked them told us we couldn’t use it in a party properly, I’d be pretty upset too

[jon041065]

I think that the concept of limited jobs themselves is fine. I think the real problem is that a popular, iconic FF job is being locked behind them. If Blue Mage was renamed something else, MaskFighter, w/e, I don’t think there’s be as much of an issue.

But the whole thing stinks to me of SE saying ‘We want to add Blue Mage but we can’t be bothered to balance this job in parties so let’s just not let it in parties’.

I mentioned before in another thread that I’ve never really been interested in Blue Mage so it’s not a big deal to me, but I can imagine if they announced a classic FF job I always really liked them told us we couldn’t use it in a party properly, I’d be pretty upset too

Renaming blue mage to something else would be fine IF they also introduced a version of the job for the full game. They wouldn't even have to rename this iteration of blue mage to do that. Leave it as "blue mage" and "blu mage" as the version without the limitations. lol

You hit the nail on the head for the biggest reason we are mad. We also feel it is a very bad signal for the of loss potential creativity in future jobs and content if they get a pass this time. We don't want to see future jobs to have limitations like this as you said.

[jon041065]

Just want to show my support for this topic again.

We are seeing a lot of backlash against other companies in the industry that are taking for granted their existing customers in pursuit of a new market. That's not quite what's going on here with limited jobs but it's awfully close. Your player base is not a monolith and that does go both ways. There probably should have been less focus on endgame content and had content spread out a bit more. That could slow down the patch cycle and/or take longer to get some content out but that would probably be for the best.

Not all of us were complaining about the game you had designed. We enjoyed it a lot. There's nothing wrong for trying to get new people to try out the game and make an often neglected part of your player base happy. There is a lot wrong with pushing aside the other part of your player base that wanted more content in the same style as the rest of the game.

Focus on the middle ground and take the time needed to get there.

[Lastelli]

I never really liked the concept of BLU, so I honestly don't care that they decided to make it a faux-job that can't participate in relevant content except its own "masked carnival" playhouse...but I've always wanted a truly pet based dps job and the idea that they may choose beastmaster as their next "skill collector job" makes me really sad.

[LalaRu]

I love to see how people theorycraft about something still doesn't exists but they decided it doesn't meet their standards and because that, it must be redone from scratch/not done/done in the "right" another way, because it will be destined to fail (in these people's heads).

It reminds me the "no one will queue main scenario roulette again" predictions when it was made the "unskippable" change.

Cannot say if you're right or wrong, but on my side, when blue comes out, I'll play it, and if I have fun with it, mission accomplished. If not, I'll maybe say my words here. Words based on facts, not thin air or mystic predictions of what will happen.