SE, don't invite that journalist to Fanfest... ever.

[Stanelis]

The game is rated for 12 year olds (at least in germany) and I think 16 in some other countrys. There are underage people playing this game and who can guarantee that they don't get involved in ERP, especially due to the anonymity here? The best thing SE can do to prevent this is to prohibit all forms of ERP, otherwise they could get in some trouble.

Hence why the question at fanfest was relevant.

[Hestzhyen]

Hence why the question at fanfest was relevant.

Except that it wasn't at all. Anyone with half a brain and some exposure to any MMO's underbelly could tell you that if you keep it strictly private and consensual the GMs won't even know about it. But as soon as you start being public or involving people (regardless of age, sexuality, etc) who don't know or don't want to, then the ban hammer will fall as soon as it's reported. XIV is not unusual or special with their ERP community and how it's handled- WoW has had seedy sections for over a decade and before that you had Everquest, etc. The dude was either playing dumb or really is that clueless when he picked that question to ask. Like Dualgunner said a more interesting question would be about the GMs themselves and how they are asked to judge borderline cases, how high their workload is, and so on.

Also, regardless of YoshiP's personal feelings, the only answer he could give is the one he gave. As a supposed member of the press he should have been familiar with the concept of PR and playing it safe during live events. That prick didn't ask a hard or important question, he just wasted 10 minutes of valuable time with the game's producer and director to have some giggles over maybe possibly getting to write an outrage piece over how SE handles some of it's players proclivities.

[Edax]

http://archive.is/RTN8a
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...le_journalism/

Litteraly making a fool of ffxiv fans, especially cosplayers, basically treating them as some kind of fetichists...
The most outrageous thing being that he's been interviewing some cosplayers only to later make fun of them in his clickbait article.

We now have the template for the next Shadowbringers Villain! Step aside Zenos, you've been replaced!

[SannaR]

To be honest I'm much more interested by the RPS question during the QA rather than another one consensual question about glamour like in 95 % of the interviews. Also, they didn't need to do "research" to write their article as it was a mere event coverage. The guy came, found weird stuff from his perspective, wrote about it. As stated, the only controversial stuff they wrote was the part about cosplayers. But the description of Yoshida's and Se's CEO was spot on, as an example (and I also found it cringy).

Actually that perspective should be invaluable to you, because it is how people who don't know anything about FFXIV and RPG s see the community. And most people won't say straight out what they think.

As for the game informer article, it is another perspective. But that is good too, because having different point of views on something isn't a bad thing. If everybody thought the same way, it wouldn't be natural.

So the guy coming off like things like fan fests, cosplay and concerts only be came things the day before and seemed to have only read a Kotau article vs another person who also seemed to not know much about fan fest shows a better view? Did we read the same aticle? Also please go read a run down of the other questions that were asked at the event. Most were not about glamour. His question was the only one that made the whole room mentally go WTF and get uncomfortable.

[Nestama]

Their official stance is in the terms of service as Yoshi stated at the interview.

I think that's because of how the question was worded. I took a look at the Kotaku article the journalist was getting his question from and it's about people paying gil for ERP services. In a 'State of the Realm' video, those present at the Q&A state the journalist was asking what Yoshi-P's stance was on RMT ERP. So this got me thinking...

The journalist likely asked "what is your stance on brothels in this game? players paying for ERP services" (not specifically mentioning payment was in gil and not in real money). If this is similar/exactly what he said, then it's no wonder why Yoshi-P responded the way he did. He misunderstood the question and assumed he was being asked about RMT.

[Hycinthus]

Again, like I said before, I have a high tolerance for things like this, because I like to see even what people outside the community thinks. Keep your enemies closer right?

I don't want to live in a bubble. Everyone is already writing and reporting the same exact thing, and if I owned a new publication, maybe I would instruct my writers to find a new perspective.
"Report and write from a stay-at-home mom going to fanfest perspective"
"Report and write from a priest going to fanfest perspective"
Anyway, FF fans and even potential fans and readers come from all walks of life.

It's great to hear what the haters think. It's great to hear what the schemers and people who seek our downfall think. So that we will not be surprised in the future. Now we know right? Just let them write out their mind.

(Some crazy examples: perhaps there's a country out there where ERP or cosplay is starting to mobilize public support to be banned in that country because it's sacrilegous. Now we know and wouldn't Yoshi want to know too that there are things like that that exist in this world

Example 2: Maybe ERP has been teetering too close to child protection laws? Who knows, anyway, questions like these keeps Yoshi on his toes. Maybe they should build new tools that can help address potential problems before it became too big? Don't want to get caught in a vicious and downward cycle like Facebook has been going through where they innovated - Live suicide video, live murder videos, fake news, etc, something without the proper tools to address exploiters).

Let them in. Let them attack. It actually helps the community to become stronger than that.

[DeaconMoore]

Let them in. Let them attack. It actually helps the community to become stronger than that.

Dude, it was supposed to be an article on fanfest. It was less informative than a 3rd graders book report is. It was pretty much just ranting and a few mentions and pics to prove he was there. That's not journalism, and even if you look at it as an opinion piece it's still worse than crap tier. It's both amazing and dismaying that he got paid for such a poorly written article.

[Edax]

Again, like I said before, I have a high tolerance for things like this, because I like to see even what people outside the community thinks. Keep your enemies closer right?

I don't want to live in a bubble. Everyone is already writing and reporting the same exact thing, and if I owned a new publication, maybe I would instruct my writers to find a new perspective.
"Report and write from a stay-at-home mom going to fanfest perspective"
"Report and write from a priest going to fanfest perspective"
Anyway, FF fans and even potential fans and readers come from all walks of life.

It's great to hear what the haters think. It's great to hear what the schemers and people who seek our downfall think. So that we will not be surprised in the future. Now we know right? Just let them write out their mind.

(Some crazy examples: perhaps there's a country out there where ERP or cosplay is starting to mobilize public support to be banned in that country because it's sacrilegous. Now we know and wouldn't Yoshi want to know too that there are things like that that exist in this world

Example 2: Maybe ERP has been teetering too close to child protection laws? Who knows, anyway, questions like these keeps Yoshi on his toes. Maybe they should build new tools that can help address potential problems before it became too big? Don't want to get caught in a vicious and downward cycle like Facebook has been going through where they innovated - Live suicide video, live murder videos, fake news, etc, something without the proper tools to address exploiters).

Let them in. Let them attack. It actually helps the community to become stronger than that.

Misinformation doesn't help communities. Even if it's meant to be a hatchet job, a journalist still has the duty of getting their facts straight. Otherwise it's libel, which is potentially illegal.

[Soraki-Muppe]

IMHO they should never pay for a journalist to visit their events ever. If someone want to attend they should at most give them a free ticket to enter but nothing more.
Something that would have been better. If they invited a somewhat famous person who likes the game, made sure they had the right tool and a camera person and let that person go around and talk with random fans during the fanfest, then finish it with a kind of interview where they spoke with Yoshi-P. Or they could repeat this mess, paying a journalist to cover the event knowing there is a big chance said person will write whatever gets the most clicks.

[Hycinthus]

Misinformation doesn't help communities. Even if it's meant to be a hatchet job, a journalist still has the duty of getting their facts straight. Otherwise it's libel, which is potentially illegal.

Agree, wouldn't argue with that, but the title of the article already says "what this fanfest taught me" and anyway maybe i missed something but i dont see anything there that is equivalent to a libel / totally factually misconstrued.