Prelude in Violet impressions and what I expect from the transition from 4.5 to 5.0

[Iscah]

4.5 is probably gonna be the last stand for Garlemald's military campaign as the destruction Elidibus-Zenos will wrought is most likely have more severe negative effects on the empire itself more than the other nations.Which would give Hydaelyn the opportunity to finally fully ascertain her authority and send down her avatars to reclaim the rest of the world and get rid of the warrior of light.

Er.... wait what now? Reclaim the world... by killing Her champion?

I'm sorry, but that just sounds too far out of left field, even if Hydaelyn isn't really the "all-loving goddess" we've been shown thus far.

[MetalSnakeXI1]

Er.... wait what now? Reclaim the world... by killing Her champion?

I'm sorry, but that just sounds too far out of left field, even if Hydaelyn isn't really the "all-loving goddess" we've been shown thus far.

From what it seems from the 5.0 Trailer....the Forces of Light are attacking us and I doubt becoming a Warrior of Darkness would involve any more contact with Hydaelyn.

She's getting rid of her Champion since he's no longer necessary as the WoL is leaning towards the darkness which is an element associated with darkness.

Ok to make it simpler I'm gonna draw a comparison to the Shin Megami Tensei franchise(sry if SMT is a bit obscure of an example to most people here but I'll try to simplify it)

In that series YHVH( a.k.a God) and the angels are associated with Light/Law&order while Lucifer and the demons are associated with darkness/chaos. The moment they notice you being tempered into the other side of the conflict even if ever so slightly they won't hesitate to dispose of you.In that series while YHVH appears benevolent to his followers his actions are depicted to be extreme like flooding the world in SMT1 or killing everyone on the planet with the light of the Megiddo canon except those the angels chose in SMT 2 during the Law route for example

if we think of Hydaelyn and Zodiark as a God Vs Lucifer situations things will start making more sense a bit....heck she literally banished Zodiark in a not so subtle manner of symbolism now that I think about it xD

Arbert witnessed something similar on his world firsthand though he had no idea if Hydaelyn was behind it or not....all he knew and thought of is that she never answered his prayers.It wouldn't be too farfetched that once Zodiark and the ascians are out of the picture that Hydaelyn would flood the world with light cleansing it from all but those who recieved her blessing

Now I highly doubt the Final Fantasy series would ever delve deeply into it the same way the SMT franchise did(in terms of the religious theming),but it's something that is certainly possible to happen even if it isn't that likely.

Where was Hydaelyn to protect us from Zenos who bodied us twice or when we fought Shinryu,a primal capable of inciting a calamity if left unchecked?Yes she was weakened before and in Heavensward it makes sense cuz of Midgardsormr,but in Stormblood she was absolutely absent from all of the WoL's conflicts in both Ala Mhigo and Doma?

The voice from the Call referred to Twin Dooms....and considering that Arbert's world was destroyed by a flood of light,it makes sense that Hydaelyn would be one of them,it is possible that she foresaw the WoL's transformation into the Warrior of Darkness and sought to dispose of us in our weakest moment which is would be right after the fight with Elidibus-Zenos and the invading Garlean forces.

Again all of this is just my speculation........it lacks details in some areas which is why I couldn't refine my theory of what's gonna happen. Most likely mine would end up being complete nonsense but I felt like I should share what I was thinking about it all

[YianKutku]

Arbert witnessed something similar on his world firsthand though he had no idea if Hydaelyn was behind it or not....all he knew and thought of is that she never answered his prayers.It wouldn't be too farfetched that once Zodiark and the ascians are out of the picture that Hydaelyn would flood the world with light cleansing it from all but those who recieved her blessing

It would indeed be farfetched, given that Hydaelyn specifically sent Minfilia back with Arbert and the other First Shard Warriors of Darkness in order to stop the Flood of Light.

[MetalSnakeXI1]

It would indeed be farfetched, given that Hydaelyn specifically sent Minfilia back with Arbert and the other First Shard Warriors of Darkness in order to stop the Flood of Light.

True but we have no idea what happened next or if their effort to stop it beared any fruit.

Not to mention the way Minfillia was taken still wasn't elaborated on and leaves a room for suspicion even if a little bit.

Yes Hydaelyn is weakened but was minfillia the ideal echo user to take?And as I said before.......why didn't she do anything with Zenos and Shinryu the same way she did with Ultima Weapon?

I know that the easy answer is because no one wanna see constant use of Deus Ex machina in plots but it's still rather suspicious.

I won't be surprised either if most or all of what I'm speculating on was wrong considering how Final Fantasy stories go in comparison to Xenogears,Xenoblade or even SMT but it's fun to talk about nonetheless

[Alleo]

From what it seems from the 5.0 Trailer....the Forces of Light are attacking us and I doubt becoming a Warrior of Darkness would involve any more contact with Hydaelyn.

She's getting rid of her Champion since he's no longer necessary as the WoL is leaning towards the darkness which is an element associated with darkness.

I kinda doubt that. First we dont even know if those Light Forces are sent from her, it could just be something that already existed (and seemingly the second lore book seems to hint that the ones in the dungeon are built in memories of such creatures?) that can now pass into our world (if its even our world and not a shard). That does not mean that it was done by Hydaelyn. She barely could talk to us and was only able to help in the other shard by using Minfilia. So she really had to lie a lot to us and at least until now nothing she has done was bad. She has shown fear for us, her children and lets not forget that the song Answers seems to be from her perspective too which hints again at a good god.

I am not saying that things cant change or that there are some moral aspects on her that could turn bad but that would come quite out of the left.

Who knows maybe the little girl in the trailer who is also seen being protected by our character in the art will be her? Maybe she wants to protect this world at all costs thus choses a human appearance for the first time?

[MetalSnakeXI1]

I kinda doubt that. First we dont even know if those Light Forces are sent from her, it could just be something that already existed (and seemingly the second lore book seems to hint that the ones in the dungeon are built in memories of such creatures?) that can now pass into our world (if its even our world and not a shard). That does not mean that it was done by Hydaelyn. She barely could talk to us and was only able to help in the other shard by using Minfilia. So she really had to lie a lot to us and at least until now nothing she has done was bad. She has shown fear for us, her children and lets not forget that the song Answers seems to be from her perspective too which hints again at a good god.

I am not saying that things cant change or that there are some moral aspects on her that could turn bad but that would come quite out of the left.

Who knows maybe the little girl in the trailer who is also seen being protected by our character in the art will be her? Maybe she wants to protect this world at all costs thus choses a human appearance for the first time?

Thinking about it....yyyeah I think I went a little too wild and forgot about Answers's relation to Hydaelyn.Then again that's what happens when I play too much ShinMegamiTensei xD

But will she still be with us if it happened that we need Zodiark to become the warrior of darkness